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Air Forces has announced that a flying

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disc has been found and is now in the

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possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide would vanish

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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thank you all right good evening Fade to

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Black I am your host Jimmy church and

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today and so tonight on the show very

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excited uh Our Guest is uh Gretchen

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Cornwall live from the UK by the way and

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tonight we're going to be discussing a

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lot of things but centered around the

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bloodline of Mary Magdalena and now and

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her possible ties uh to the Knights

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Templar we're going to be getting into

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all of that she is a historian she's an

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expert on the nice Templar having

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written two books on the subject she has

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lived in England since 2002 is a member

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of the British archaeological

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Association she has appeared on History

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Channels The Curse of Oak Island and

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Ancient Aliens as an expert on the

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Knights Templar and medieval history

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she's a contributor to web icon Inc a

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documentary film company and has

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appeared in the documentary film series

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Templars the Sinclair legisl Legacy

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legislation Legacy and goodrid the fair

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and the sword in the circle which will

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be released in 2023 on Amazon Prime in

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the United States and the UK and I would

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like to welcome for the first time to

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fade to black Gretchen Cornwall Gretchen

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good evening how are you good evening

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I'm great I'm up awake and I have my

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you're gonna need it tonight yeah and uh

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and and yeah exactly and you know that's

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all we is the deal with the UK here

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we're all the way over in Los Angeles

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and that time difference is brutal but

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uh welcome and it's going to be a great

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show you ready I am I'm looking forward

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to it I was actually uh quite excited

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and adrenalized to be here this evening

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with uh with all of you and with you

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uh now here's um here's the deal what

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we're going to do is start with the

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First Time guest disclaimer

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it's the first time you're on the show

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so we get to do that which is Gretchen

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it's just you and I sitting on my couch

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having a conversation as friends and

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where that conversation starts it starts

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where it ends it ends but we're gonna

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end his friends there you go so that's

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when you have to you have to click you

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um uh here's here's what's interesting

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at the beginning of the internet

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internet 1.0 just started get my first

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search engine you know it's 1995 I get

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whatever you know Mozilla or something

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I start on my journey uh when websites

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were very rare but there was a

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collection very early on about

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oh renele Chateau you know there was

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King Arthur uh there was an early uh Oak

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um but uh and and then uh getting into

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King Arthur The Da Vinci Code I don't

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even think happened yet right but it it

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was a bunch of subjects that I was very

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interested in and apparently so was the

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internet uh back then and I dove

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straight in and getting into to uh Mary

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Jesus King Arthur of course Renee lay

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Chateau and everything that that

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um opens up all of those doors right

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everything is just right in front of you

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and I haven't stopped researching it

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since and that's why this show tonight

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is so great and and I just really enjoy

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the subject and I don't know it as well

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as I should but it's something that it's

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like the gift that keeps on giving

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there's always more research and more

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evidence that is revealed every day

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right it's true I had have had a few

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people say to me well don't we know

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everything there is to know about the

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Templars and isn't that ride pretty well

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done and then of course it's not true

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and something always pops up as you've

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said and 1995 actually was the year that

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hit for me as well I discovered Lawrence

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Gardner in that year and he wrote

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extensively about the bloodline so did

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Henry you know and Lincoln and Leon

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Lincoln but uh uh that was the year for

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me as well and and I was hooked

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and it is a passion for me and it gets

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me up in the morning this whole genre

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we're talking a minimum of 2 000 years

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of History under under this uh umbrella

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with its side uh jogs and um it's it's

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riveting I I can't think of anything

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else I'd rather be doing and researching

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and there's always you're right there's

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always something more to learn and

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you'll find it's almost through

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inspirational flashes that I have

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stumbled across information

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that has blown me away blown me out of

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the water and it's uh I just feel that

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Gifts of information come and I'm sure

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you feel the same way whenever you you

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have something fall into your your lap

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interesting thing with the Renaissance

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photo uh paintings and the medieval

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paintings where you have the objects in

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the sky

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uh that are metallic and um I believe

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there's this is slightly off topic but

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you know the UFO world is connected to

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to to the world of of uh Mary Magdalene

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and uh great Cathedrals and master

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painters

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um a lot of this information is kept and

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perpetuated in the art schools and all

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great Masters like Leonardo or

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Botticelli they had their uh students

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that would work for them to work for

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them and uh though that's a lot of these

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secrets were kept within the art schools

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within stone masonry Etc but you know

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these paintings I I'm just taking a side

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jog here to put these two things

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together I'm sure you've seen them where

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you've got uh the um uh you know the the

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Virgin Mary is being told she's going to

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have a child and there's a UFO in the

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sky with the beam of light coming out of

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it yeah it's it's really interesting

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stuff but that's but that's such a great

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point in that uh so much of this is

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hiding in plain sight and you've got to

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go back and decode it and and and figure

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out what the message is and and to that

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end I think that there is such a huge

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interest when you look at the success of

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something like The Da Vinci Code which I

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mean just you know took off but that's

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also Ancient Aliens and the curse of voc

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Island where the world wants this

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information and and they enjoy it and it

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is it's a puzzle that we're still trying

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to figure out right yes absolutely and

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it is Primal and has hit all of us at

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our at the core of our being and drive

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so many of almost inexplicably to seek

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out as much information as is possible

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on what happened two thousand years ago

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and in the centuries uh preceding or you

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what is fascinating is is you've got to

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take the names and events off the dry

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in a in a book and put yourself in their

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shoes

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there are our ancestors over the last

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2000 years of time are are human beings

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that had limitations and had to leverage

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their resources in intelligent ways

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and uh when they organized themselves

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you know they pulled off some pretty

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incredible feats

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uh you know the the Templars are

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fascinating and

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it takes a little bit of imagination but

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you've got to put yourself in their

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shoes and and work out okay it's it's

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the evening of October 13th 1307 when

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you're about to be arrested you know it

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and you've got to save what you can of

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your order what are you gonna do so

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um it's it's it's fascinating I do

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believe the Knights Templar

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survived and inspired other orders such

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as the Freemasons the rosicrucians and

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that there are still the

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people who carry the traditions of the

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order templarism uh the cathars are

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the it's it's just a

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stay intelligent look like I've been

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and I also want to just you know give

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give all of this all at once but but I'm

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only human so it has to happen one thing

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at a time well that's that's where I

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come in I'll do my job let's let's

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actually start uh with Mary Magdalene

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and what you have learned we have got

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probably a thousand different versions

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of her that are out there and a lot of

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research has as poured into this not

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only from our community but also through

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historians archeology and then we have

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the biblical narrative too as well which

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is uh quite honestly very thin there

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isn't much there too as well so uh who

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was she and let's let's start there uh

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we'll get to her relationship with Jesus

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but Mary herself who was she

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well uh she you know she was of of a

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bloodline herself and this is a very

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strict culture that she was born into

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a an important uh uh match for Prince

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King Jesus there is Jesus the man

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the uh

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healer the wise man and he needed

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someone

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who could go toe-to-toe with him and he

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found that individual in Mary Magdalene

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and he was she was able to grasp

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wholeheartedly his deepest teachings

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and it was the female movement that took

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the spirituality of his teachings

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forward and of course there were two

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churches there were where there was the

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political patriarchal Church uh that

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developed in 325 A.D Constantine uh the

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Roman Emperor created this very

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patriarchal uh religion and uh whereas

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Mary Magdalene had

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had been forced to to go into Exile in

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Marseille

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and Spread spread Jesus's teachings into

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into France

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and of course her children would

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eventually be aligned with the

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Merovingian

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bloodline and um uh who is she I think

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she is an archetypal figure

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that is as important now for any of us

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to to communicate with

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and not only a grounded way but through

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and to put yourself in her shoes uh

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there are very as you say very skinned

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biblical uh information thin on the

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ground but they're of course there there

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are the other uh texts that are not in

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the Bible they were they were of course

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taken out there is the marriage uh text

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which says you know he he used to kiss

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her often on the black of course that

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little part there uh from the the

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oh we lost you discovered it uh of

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course it's it's thought that that he

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would kiss her often on the mouth and

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according to the the book of of Mary

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Magdalene you know she says uh Peter

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hates my my kind my race meaning women

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so she felt she's feeling threatened by

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him we know he has a sword we know he's

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a bodyguard if you will of of Jesus

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and a pretty powerful guy you know uh

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and he has the ear of all of the male

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disciples

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well I'm pretty sure there was uh she

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had her own female

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disciples that uh took took his word out

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and and but did she she was baptizing

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people she was initiating people uh she

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spent according to Legend her life in in

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a cave in southern France

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and you know these are all

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Primal uh you know I I do a lot of

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research about caves and Templar

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connected caves as well so the cave is

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really important and here she is his

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wife who's had his children is is living

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in a cave you know in her in her

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lifetime

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so uh

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I respect that that you and your your

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community have been doing a lot of

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research on her I I won't dwell on the

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early information uh that that you are

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all familiar with I I did go into a lot

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of that in my first book this the secret

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dossier of a night Templar of the sun

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Grail and that progression in history

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going forward and I don't believe that

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they were poor he was the davidic king

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he was supposed to have been you know

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the king and Carpenter uh actually means

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Master semester of what was he actually

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a carpenter it doesn't mean that he

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couldn't have been uh on a ship with his

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wealthy Uncle Joseph Vera mathia and had

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a as a healthy young man been very

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helpful on board that that vessel as

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their sale feeling to Cornwall in South

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West England

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for the tin trade

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so you know the it that that he's not

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sitting around you know music he's he's

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a healthy you know active active guy

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uh so never I never uh what I always

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thought that Carpenter was symbolic I I

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don't I've never really pictured Jesus

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making stools right no no you guys need

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a dresser let me build you guys a drive

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I I no I don't you know that that

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Carpenter was uh symbolic

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um but with that being said uh with Mary

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she um forgive me I'm uh there is uh uh

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Mary of Mag uh of magdal you know is it

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migda magdalf uh she she is

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um named after a there was an actual

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town called

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um

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forgive me

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hang up on me uh but she uh

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she was actually called Mary the

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Magdalene right and that means Mary the

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tower

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and uh Tower brings into the equation

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all sorts of of meanings a singular

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strength uh an individual in in charge

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she was she would have been the the

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queen you know of of the kingdom of

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Jerusalem had he been able to take the

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throne

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so her uh her status level is is that of

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a physical bride of royalty and Exile

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and that's why he married her because

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she was

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of a royal Royal bloodline uh davidic if

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I'm not mistake why do you think that

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the church

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um very deliberately uh went out of

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their way to portray her as you know a a

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woman of the night right some kind of

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yeah well you know I think that was in

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the early 1500s at the pope of the time

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decided he took like three berries and

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and bunched them all up and and decided

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she was a prostitute

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none of these guys wanted competition

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especially uh competition that was

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hereditary

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and none of them wanted that so so you

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had to erase her right and you wanted to

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reduce her status and and and damage Her

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Image because there's no way that she

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could be anything more than that yeah

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because Jesus was Jesus and and we can't

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Elevate Mary into some other position is

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is is that too far of a stretch or I

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know that's exactly how it went down

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exactly you know it's all about power

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and money you want the population base

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to tithe generously

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to the monoliths you've created these

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massive churches I mean the Vatican uh

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is in a very expensive proposition to

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keep going and you know you don't want

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your popes to have children because you

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don't want the children to squabble over

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the over the the the spoils if you will

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you want you want to keep one man in

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charge who who has control over

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everything and you get rid of the actual

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bloodline of course that didn't work out

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actually all that well there there there

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are quite a few things happening under

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the surface throughout medieval history

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but I just want here's my disclaimer uh

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if you are a scholar

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a master's level or PhD level you're

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writing a book you have a television

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show to do you've got a legitimate

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publisher

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Etc the Vatican archives are very open

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to research they have so much material

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they don't even know what they have

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and I appreciate that they have

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embraced and

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their their Sciences their astronomy

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they've got their own Observatory you

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know they they have embraced science

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I I think this current pope is very

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interesting there is a lack of of

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priests in South America and he's

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advocating allowing married priests

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to to be at the Forefront in South

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America

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and you know

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that's many early popes were married we

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all we all know that they did have

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children

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um the the church in the UK

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um the the British kingdoms uh they were

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married it wasn't until uh the the 600s

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you know when when things were clamped

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down uh Celtic Christianity espoused

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reincarnation and marriage and children

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you know you want the leader of your

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organization to have a full life

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experience and if the wheels of the

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universe are held together by this

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incredible energy this incredible

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creative Force

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that quantum mechanics which I do go

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into in my book as well I spend a lot of

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time on quantum mechanics uh Mary

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magdalene's children

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uh the survival of the Templars Etc so

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it's a lot of work in that book but

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if you look at the photographs coming

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out of the James Hubble or excuse me the

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James Webb Telescope and you look at

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these breathtaking images what we're

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seeing is a grain of sand it's it's been

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said by NASA you hold it between your

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your forefinger and your thumb extend it

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out and that grain of sand is what we're

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looking at

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through the James Webb Telescope

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hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

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galaxies that were discovering so the

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energy that holds all of that together

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can't have a

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representative son if you will uh and

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daughter and lineage on one teeny tiny

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little planet

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you know come on

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let's let's broaden our Horizons just a

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little bit I'd say I I say that all the

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time and you know yeah the more that we

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learn

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um and understand about the size of

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everything I mean we just don't we don't

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have a great we don't understand we

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can't wrap our head around the size of

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everything and and for all of that it

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seems to me

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um from what I have learned I've done a

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lot of shows and a lot of interviews

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that it's not chance

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right it's not it's not it's not it's

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not just lucky there has to be something

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uh behind it all I don't know what that

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is I don't you can call it God and call

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some Supreme Being spirituality I I

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don't know

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um hopefully someday we will find out

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and I will find out but there is

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something behind it and we've got to

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continue to chase those answers We Can't

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Stop I I like to call this uh the Great

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Divine and

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um uh because it is so big and uh it's

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our job as self-aware human beings to

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chase it down absolutely now now you

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mentioned you mentioned uh France

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um that is one oh okay so let's get into

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a little spirited conversation I'm a

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little confused and I haven't quite

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figured this out

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so Mary and some friends get on a boat

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and sail across the Mediterranean maybe

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they paddled they sailed across the

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Mediterranean did were they aiming for

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France I think so

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um I

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there was already in place a thriving

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Jewish community in Marseille and uh so

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they weren't going to a strange new

519
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world you know the uh this was part of

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the the Mediterranean it was a a huge

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trading Port

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um it may you know

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um very key to to uh well I think Joseph

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Arimathea you know he he knew where he

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was going uh you know the Legends all

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say that that Mary Magdalene was put

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into a boat with a couple of other

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people and without uh uh oars pushed out

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into the Mediterranean no no you know uh

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she and her uh family

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um according to Legends with Joseph

532
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Arimathea you know they they got on a

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ship and they they sailed to Marseille

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you know we've got to think about the

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Practical the practicalities and get

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away from uh the the Legends you know of

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of the past so so if you if you need to

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get out of town

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um if and go into Exile because you're

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you're King and waiting has just been

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been uh

542
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:55,799
murdered by the by the Romans you know

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00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,260
you you're going to need a sale you're

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00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:00,000
going to need ores you know you're going

545
00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:02,520
to need you need to pack quickly all

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these things so so it's it's it's uh

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bring it into a human level

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um uh it's it's fascinating this the

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00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:17,059
culture in southern France that reveres

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uh Sarah the Egyptian

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Sarah in Hebrew literally means princess

552
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:29,240
and the this is where the

553
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:33,120
uh it's one of the high points of the

554
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:34,740
black this is where the black Madonna

555
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:39,600
comes in uh through through uh Sarah the

556
00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:43,320
Egyptian who's who's who's dark she's

557
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:46,980
black yeah she went into hiding uh she

558
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:51,480
so the and this ties in with the Isis

559
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,620
stories where Isis had to reach go

560
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,320
rescue the different parts of her

561
00:29:01,430 --> 00:29:00,000
husband Osiris that have been scattered

562
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:01,440
through the kingdom after it's set

563
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,140
chopped chopped him up to get rid of him

564
00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:07,679
so she disguises herself and puts soot

565
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:09,900
on her face

566
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,179
so and then that that's the original

567
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:14,720
Cinderella Story you know

568
00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:17,880
and of course that is Revisited with

569
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:21,960
Sarah the Egyptian and she is the the

570
00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:25,860
next in line after Mary Magdalene and if

571
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,399
it's it's it's it's you know hiding her

572
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,640
her identity it's one of the first uh

573
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:33,840
ways

574
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,820
you know she she's hiding her identity

575
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:37,919
and you know we've got another

576
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,440
incarnation of that coming up that I'm

577
00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:42,000
looking forward to sharing with you as

578
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:44,100
well but yeah

579
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,700
um the trading routes uh uh there was an

580
00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:49,679
inland trading route for gold maybe a

581
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,679
Joseph of Arimathea uh was trading gold

582
00:29:57,649 --> 00:29:54,720
at some point as well but that goes up

583
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,659
into loose straight North through the

584
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:00,080
middle of France and up to the coastline

585
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:03,779
uh and then it's just 22 miles across uh

586
00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:08,159
to to to to uh England uh then of course

587
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:09,539
the shipping route is out of the

588
00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:12,240
Mediterranean up the the other side but

589
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,000
you know we think of our ancestors as

590
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:17,520
people are stuck into a 15-mile radius

591
00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:20,640
they weren't you know they they traveled

592
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,440
if they had any money at all they were

593
00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:24,360
able to hop on a boat and they they

594
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:27,179
moved very quickly through the world

595
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:30,240
so it's it's it's that's the one of my

596
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:32,100
missions is trying to get people to

597
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:33,299
understand

598
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:37,980
the free movement that was available to

599
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:41,039
these historic individuals and their

600
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:44,700
historic uh and venerated and and

601
00:30:49,549 --> 00:30:47,220
because they had you know they were

602
00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:49,559
movers and shakers of their day they

603
00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:51,960
changed history they affect our

604
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:56,220
Consciousness today but they they had

605
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,159
money they had access to uh ships that

606
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:01,279
could navigate Rivers the Mediterranean

607
00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:05,399
is is not chopped up into blocks where

608
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:07,799
it's just the Holy Land here and nobody

609
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:09,419
ever went to Marseille

610
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,640
so you know you've got to always keep in

611
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,159
mind the highway the freeway the 80

612
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:16,980
miles an hour down the road you know in

613
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:20,159
a ship on a river yeah that's exactly

614
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:22,140
what they did in the Mediterranean it

615
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,360
you know you could literally just stay

616
00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:26,700
along the shore and just go Port after

617
00:31:33,769 --> 00:31:29,580
port after absolutely you know that's

618
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,350
and big trading port and there were all

619
00:31:40,669 --> 00:31:39,120
there was a strong wealthy Jewish

620
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:40,679
Community there already

621
00:31:45,130 --> 00:31:42,179
now

622
00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:45,140
um how old was Sarah

623
00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:48,659
that's a good question she's she's old

624
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,700
enough to be described as uh uh Sarah

625
00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:55,679
the dark Egyptian so we're not talking

626
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:57,419
about a baby here

627
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,200
we're talking about uh uh perhaps

628
00:32:05,510 --> 00:32:04,080
a young teenager who could stand on her

629
00:32:08,269 --> 00:32:05,520
feet

630
00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:08,279
um I do think that Mary Magdalene had to

631
00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:10,620
have had at least three children and

632
00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:13,559
that seems to be the The Legend Jesus

633
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:16,140
himself was the eldest of eight

634
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:19,100
and of course Thomas

635
00:32:24,529 --> 00:32:21,720
translates to twin

636
00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:24,539
uh so he had a twin brother

637
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:29,880
and this is a lineage that was

638
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:33,720
passing down sacred Traditions to their

639
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:36,960
talented sons who are able to interface

640
00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:39,240
with the Great Divine

641
00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:42,419
so if we put it in those terms and this

642
00:32:49,870 --> 00:32:45,960
I'm just going to speak as a 2023 adult

643
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:49,880
here right we put it in those terms

644
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:52,620
marrying Jesus

645
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:56,520
got together obviously before his

646
00:33:03,350 --> 00:32:59,520
resurrection and and things

647
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:03,360
um but uh had three children

648
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:07,860
and if Sarah was in her teens then Mary

649
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:12,000
would have left uh Jerusalem or that

650
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:14,340
area Israel

651
00:33:23,149 --> 00:33:19,980
um uh 13 14 years after the fact

652
00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:23,159
so she was in Israel for 13 years before

653
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:33,049
I think I don't think that she had a

654
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,340
single child and was pregnant when she

655
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:37,440
may have been pregnant when she left

656
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,140
but she had uh you know Sarah the

657
00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:42,480
Egyptian is in the boat with her

658
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:46,140
and that is her her daughter uh I I

659
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:49,019
think they left pretty well after the

660
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:51,960
crucifixion because it still wasn't safe

661
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:54,600
for them to be there uh I think the only

662
00:33:59,690 --> 00:33:56,700
reason why she survived herself was

663
00:34:03,350 --> 00:33:59,700
because she was a woman and the you know

664
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,360
the the first one at the tomb the she

665
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:05,360
stayed at the foot of the cross

666
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,359
uh so you said you're suggesting that

667
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,119
she was immediately after that I I think

668
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:15,119
so and I I think that that that they may

669
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:19,440
have been married longer than was uh

670
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,679
thought the marriage of Cana was was

671
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:24,960
their marriage and maybe that took place

672
00:34:30,889 --> 00:34:28,560
earlier uh in order to become a rabbi he

673
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,899
was called Rabbi in order to become a

674
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:33,359
rabbi you had to be married you had to

675
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:34,919
have children

676
00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:38,159
so he would have been uh expected to get

677
00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:41,220
married right after his bar mitzvah he

678
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,339
was born in Jewish culture not you know

679
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:46,800
he didn't you know come forth and say

680
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,500
okay I'm going to establish Christianity

681
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:51,839
and that just means anointed one you

682
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:54,960
know you know Christ that Christ it

683
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:56,639
means anointed one

684
00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:58,140
so

685
00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:00,900
um okay let me let's stay right there

686
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:04,140
let's stay right there it's so

687
00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:09,839
um Sarah's born she's already alive when

688
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,339
Mary got into the boat I'm just I'm just

689
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:16,380
trying to peace out no that this is how

690
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,300
you have to think about it because you

691
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:19,920
have to think about it in physical human

692
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:22,800
terms correct correct so she was

693
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:25,380
pregnant when she got on the boat with

694
00:35:31,609 --> 00:35:29,280
Jesus's other two children or or uh well

695
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,619
that's yeah I hear you

696
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,599
um uh

697
00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:36,480
there may have been a son in the boat

698
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,200
along with Sarah they have been pregnant

699
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,200
with a son right okay and of course you

700
00:35:50,569 --> 00:35:45,839
know trying to to the we're talking

701
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:50,579
about about legends that have withstood

702
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:54,140
the test of time you know 2 000 years

703
00:36:02,870 --> 00:35:58,800
and I do hope that at some point we find

704
00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:02,880
ancient texts uh that that establish

705
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,460
this there has to be a precedent for

706
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:06,480
this

707
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:14,400
detective work is the way to to flush

708
00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:15,599
out

709
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:19,859
what could have happened but I I do

710
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,960
think that that we're talking about

711
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:24,480
three children and that would have meant

712
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:26,220
two would have been born at the time of

713
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:28,140
the curse of you know alive at the time

714
00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:30,660
of the crucifixion as she was pregnant

715
00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:33,960
with a third two sons and a daughter two

716
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:35,640
sons and a daughter

717
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:38,760
sailing across uh with some some other

718
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,160
friends on the boat they arrive in

719
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:42,960
Marseille

720
00:36:48,829 --> 00:36:45,359
um with the research that I've I've read

721
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:48,839
and certainly you have uh done so much

722
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:50,339
of it

723
00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:54,000
um we have cities we have families we

724
00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:55,380
have churches

725
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:58,140
we have all kinds of things in the south

726
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,920
of France that follow these names and

727
00:37:09,550 --> 00:37:04,560
it's not coincidence is it

728
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:09,560
no and names are so

729
00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:13,440
important uh that if if you no longer

730
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:16,020
have a building and you've got a name

731
00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:18,359
then you know something went down in

732
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:20,700
that location

733
00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:23,880
so it's you know it's really important

734
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,619
to follow the names

735
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,599
of uh place names

736
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,800
Etc

737
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:31,680
um it's

738
00:37:37,810 --> 00:37:35,520
you know she she you know her her DNA

739
00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:37,820
spread all the way up into

740
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:40,980
Brittany in in northern France so I'm

741
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:42,420
kind of Shifting the conversation a

742
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:45,660
little bit here because I do have proof

743
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:51,420
that she was venerated up until 1627.

744
00:37:59,390 --> 00:37:55,500
as a constellation in the night sky

745
00:38:02,990 --> 00:37:59,400
really yes okay now go ahead go ahead

746
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:03,000
now so here we are we have

747
00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:08,339
um I sent you some photographs yes and

748
00:38:14,690 --> 00:38:11,640
so I I I would love to be able to answer

749
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,700
all your early uh

750
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:17,040
questions but a lot of that is in my

751
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,880
first book uh some of this is too but so

752
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:23,040
so in in

753
00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:24,300
um

754
00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:27,240
Herod of Landsberg was an abbess of

755
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:30,619
hohenberg Abby which was founded by the

756
00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:32,940
marovingians of course we all know who

757
00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:33,960
they are

758
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:36,540
so that's interesting in itself

759
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:39,420
she developed

760
00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:42,900
the earliest encyclopedia

761
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:46,440
called the hortus delicarium

762
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:49,320
or the garden of delights which is an

763
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:53,400
interesting title in itself slightly

764
00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:57,359
slightly odd in context so this is 1180

765
00:39:02,870 --> 00:38:59,700
that that this is done and it's quite

766
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:02,880
extensive it covers everything that was

767
00:39:07,390 --> 00:39:06,300
possibly known of at the time and then

768
00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:07,400
some

769
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:09,780
uh she did this for the future

770
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:14,880
leadership of her her Abby now there's a

771
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:17,760
frontus piece if you will

772
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:24,180
of Sophia and of course Sophia means the

773
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:27,960
wisdom in in Greek uh the Sophia of

774
00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:31,980
Christ you know so so uh the frontis

775
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:35,339
piece is is

776
00:39:40,569 --> 00:39:37,859
um let's see back up here Gretchen uh

777
00:39:44,810 --> 00:39:40,579
the Seven Liberal Arts is is is

778
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:44,820
depicted in this round uh Circle

779
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:47,940
uh there it is philosophia and the Seven

780
00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:50,880
Liberal Arts this was so important all

781
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,180
the way up from the Greeks the Romans

782
00:40:00,410 --> 00:39:56,640
who adopted it and into the

783
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,420
well-educated classes of the Middle Ages

784
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:02,400
all the way up and of course

785
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:07,140
um that uh the Seven Liberal Arts was uh

786
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:10,200
protected if you will from

787
00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:11,520
um

788
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,320
from ignorance you know a lot of people

789
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:16,800
didn't read write Etc at the time and uh

790
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:19,500
Abby's monasteries kept the written word

791
00:40:29,329 --> 00:40:24,780
alive and the Seven Liberal Arts became

792
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,339
the Hallmark of a human being if you if

793
00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:31,920
you were proficient in all of these

794
00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:35,339
areas then you would be considered a

795
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:37,619
great citizen of Greece and of course

796
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,200
we're talking about men here now so lady

797
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:42,000
so so

798
00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:45,540
um lady philosophia or Sophia is in the

799
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:47,400
middle there and she's holding this very

800
00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:50,820
strange wide banner and out of her heart

801
00:40:58,310 --> 00:40:54,140
center are coming the the seven streams

802
00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:58,320
of knowledge underneath her is Plato and

803
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:01,500
Socrates so here we have a reference to

804
00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:05,280
the platonic Mystery Schools

805
00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:08,220
to keep that in mind and that's in my my

806
00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:10,380
first book as well I won't go into

807
00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:12,540
everything here because I have a lot of

808
00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:14,339
ground to cut that I would like to talk

809
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:15,660
to you about and I'm not quite sure what

810
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:17,880
time it is but but this is quite a

811
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,300
complicated piece and when I I realized

812
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,800
I was looking at this thing and I

813
00:41:26,450 --> 00:41:24,960
thought oh my God it's coded

814
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:26,460
and

815
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:33,890
in brief uh the banner she is holding

816
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:36,599
plays A Part they're

817
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:37,140
um

818
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:43,200
her own special little little Arch here

819
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:48,180
and she's holding the uh two instruments

820
00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:53,640
that are important in in not just the

821
00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:56,460
mathematical approach of geometry but in

822
00:42:03,170 --> 00:41:59,880
building you know on Stone lasts forever

823
00:42:05,569 --> 00:42:03,180
stone is so important to the Templar

824
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:05,579
mindset to the medieval mindset because

825
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:07,320
it's the one thing that will withstand

826
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:10,200
the test of time so she's got this giant

827
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:14,160
you know compass and and staff but I

828
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:18,240
noticed the the exaggerated M that the

829
00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:22,380
objects create and if you go to my my

830
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:24,900
book uh the secret dossier you'll be

831
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:28,220
able to see the image of geometry

832
00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:33,359
without the the staff cuts across her

833
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:36,300
knee and the fold of her dress uh full

834
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:39,180
you know creates one side the compass

835
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:43,520
the other side and and next to her is

836
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,440
astronomia astronomy the art of

837
00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:48,240
astronomy but the weird thing is with

838
00:42:51,290 --> 00:42:49,859
her look at what she's holding she's

839
00:42:54,349 --> 00:42:51,300
holding

840
00:42:56,329 --> 00:42:54,359
a jar why is she doing that why would an

841
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,339
astronomer need a jar

842
00:43:03,109 --> 00:42:59,119
so we're looking at the anointing

843
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:03,119
uh the alabaster jar there the uh that

844
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:06,660
that Mary Magdalene used to anoint

845
00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:13,200
uh Jesus as as the the rightful King

846
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:15,900
is what that gesture was about and

847
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:18,660
acknowledging her as him as her husband

848
00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:23,040
in public so those two shapes that that

849
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:26,819
we were looking at is is Cassiopeia and

850
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:28,440
I actually took

851
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,940
the configuration of of Cassiopeia and

852
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:35,280
experimented with it on on the stars of

853
00:43:41,809 --> 00:43:39,720
astronomy and uh geometry and Cassiopeia

854
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:41,819
revolves in the night sky around the

855
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:46,140
North Star and poor Cassiopeia you know

856
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:49,800
she's always poked fun at as as you know

857
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:52,440
the vain Queen but when you're talking

858
00:43:58,930 --> 00:43:55,619
about the platonic mystery school and

859
00:44:02,750 --> 00:43:58,940
templarism and the Magdalene Mysteries

860
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,760
you're looking at Mary Magdalene and

861
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:05,520
when that constellation turns in the

862
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:09,119
night sky it does form

863
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:11,400
to a double m

864
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,780
so

865
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:15,119
it is a bit wonky and it is the throne

866
00:44:20,589 --> 00:44:17,700
it is called the the throne in heaven

867
00:44:24,109 --> 00:44:20,599
the night sky so she is the the

868
00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:24,119
counterpart revolving around his fixed

869
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:27,540
position and she's always there and

870
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:29,880
she's often Cassiopeia is often shown

871
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:33,599
with a mirror it's not vanity it means

872
00:44:41,630 --> 00:44:38,040
know thyself which was written above the

873
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:41,640
entryway uh of the platonic

874
00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:45,660
uh compound the play to Plato School

875
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:47,700
know thyself that's where that comes

876
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:50,280
from so you've got to look at yourself

877
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:52,200
you've got to go inward you've got to

878
00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:53,940
examine yourself

879
00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:57,300
so these concepts are all being welded

880
00:45:03,410 --> 00:44:59,400
together

881
00:45:06,109 --> 00:45:03,420
um uh through the image of Cassiopeia as

882
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:06,119
a way of remembering you know Mary

883
00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:07,440
Magdalene

884
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:11,160
and I I didn't send this to you uh but

885
00:45:17,390 --> 00:45:14,700
she was also

886
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:17,400
she is also to be found and this is in

887
00:45:23,809 --> 00:45:20,819
my book in a star chart that was created

888
00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:23,819
in 1627

889
00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:27,420
and this uh star chart is really

890
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:29,400
interesting it's an attempt to

891
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:32,700
christianize the constellations and it

892
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:35,460
didn't catch it didn't take on but what

893
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,040
was so interesting is that Cassiopeia

894
00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:40,800
yet again is portrayed

895
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:45,540
uh as Mary Magdalene and uh with a with

896
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,480
a uh her alabaster jar over an empty

897
00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:51,180
tomb and and her her expression is very

898
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:55,020
much the same as the Mona Lisa and I'm

899
00:46:03,829 --> 00:45:59,280
very certain that the artist uh had seen

900
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:03,839
the painting to capture this this uh

901
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:07,260
Visage but uh what's interesting about

902
00:46:11,170 --> 00:46:09,240
that star chart

903
00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:11,180
um is that

904
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:15,660
uh the Virgin Mary is not in it

905
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:17,700
she's missing

906
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:18,540
um

907
00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:22,500
so it's it's quite heretical and the the

908
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:25,319
astronomer who put this together died

909
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:27,660
this within months of this being

910
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,220
released

911
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:32,880
so you know and not that I I don't I

912
00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:35,280
don't know his history enough I haven't

913
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:38,460
found anything more about it but you

914
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:40,740
know he he he died and the whole project

915
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,520
died with him of course he did so yeah

916
00:46:50,030 --> 00:46:47,599
indeed indeed yeah well

917
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:50,040
the one

918
00:46:59,809 --> 00:46:58,260
can't get out of my head and it it's

919
00:47:04,790 --> 00:46:59,819
been like this for a while

920
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:07,490
survivors there has to be a continuation

921
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:12,240
Of The Bloodline and when the the ideas

922
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,240
put forward by Dan Brown and not going

923
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:17,280
and brownish here I'm not going to do

924
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:20,040
that it's suggests that the Holy Grail

925
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:22,680
is the bloodline was actually a pretty

926
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:25,920
interesting take and uh one that I don't

927
00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:28,560
necessarily subscribe to but what it

928
00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:31,619
does force us into thinking

929
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:35,579
is who who is the continuation today

930
00:47:44,750 --> 00:47:39,960
does the bloodline survive in in 2023

931
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:44,760
yeah yeah yes is the answer and and

932
00:47:50,030 --> 00:47:46,260
um it's going to be difficult to

933
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:50,040
pinpoint exactly who uh what everyone

934
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:52,859
focuses on is [\h__\h] bear

935
00:48:00,050 --> 00:47:56,400
and and his his murder

936
00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:00,060
but Diego bear uh was not the only

937
00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:04,380
individual to take into consideration

938
00:48:08,890 --> 00:48:07,260
um if you can trace your genealogy back

939
00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:08,900
to Charlemagne

940
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:13,020
then you are part of this bloodline

941
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,280
and that the reason for that is his uh

942
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:20,160
grandmother great-grandmother bertrata

943
00:48:28,130 --> 00:48:23,940
was a Merovingian princess and I believe

944
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:28,140
that she was forced or voluntarily who

945
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:31,380
knows probably forced to marry

946
00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:33,960
pep in the short

947
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:36,540
uh the first I think he was the first

948
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:41,400
carolingian ruler after uh after the you

949
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:45,839
know the the poor uh last imprisoned uh

950
00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:48,839
Merovingian was gotten rid of

951
00:48:54,829 --> 00:48:52,619
so here you have the DNA in this woman

952
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,839
and that DNA continues through

953
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:56,280
Charlemagne

954
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,619
and I find that incredibly fascinating

955
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:01,440
and what one of the issues that just

956
00:49:07,609 --> 00:49:04,800
irks me beyond beyond anything is that

957
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:07,619
you can change a woman's name but you

958
00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:11,520
cannot change her DNA oh

959
00:49:18,829 --> 00:49:15,240
no the blood is still there her DNA is

960
00:49:20,809 --> 00:49:18,839
still there and um uh you know it's like

961
00:49:24,890 --> 00:49:20,819
people people say this is a different

962
00:49:27,770 --> 00:49:24,900
conversation but uh just briefly the

963
00:49:32,569 --> 00:49:27,780
current royal family is related to the

964
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:32,579
stewards through a sister of Charles II

965
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:37,859
who married into the Hanoverian family

966
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:41,220
so they are related and what what the

967
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:45,599
Medieval World did was to uh you know

968
00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:47,880
the whole culture was based around women

969
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:52,920
as as substandard and that that that is

970
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:56,400
me it's quite handy really you get rid

971
00:50:02,329 --> 00:49:57,980
of women

972
00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:02,339
then you've immediately uh gotten rid of

973
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,339
half the competition and that's what

974
00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:07,680
it's all about it's competition so

975
00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:10,140
everything had to to go through through

976
00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:13,380
the man and then the men duke it out for

977
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:17,579
Supremacy it's that simple so uh just

978
00:50:23,809 --> 00:50:21,119
because you know so bertrata uh who you

979
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:23,819
know is is has been quite an invisible

980
00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:27,000
figure uh

981
00:50:32,829 --> 00:50:29,579
quite an invisible figure but but she's

982
00:50:36,589 --> 00:50:32,839
there now now that you know

983
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:36,599
Charlemagne was an incredible individual

984
00:50:43,010 --> 00:50:39,540
and even he refused to let his daughters

985
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,020
marry so that his there wasn't too much

986
00:50:47,930 --> 00:50:44,880
competition

987
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:47,940
through male heirs

988
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:52,260
uh so it's it's it's an interesting

989
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:53,940
study when you you start looking at

990
00:51:01,309 --> 00:50:58,740
Medieval history and and uh

991
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:01,319
there were powerful women Eleanor of

992
00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:02,700
Aquitaine

993
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:07,980
is directly related to uh to the the

994
00:51:16,670 --> 00:51:11,700
this bloodline there are uh many

995
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,680
interesting individuals uh there are uh

996
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:18,960
and this brings us into talking about

997
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:21,540
melazine but um if you can trace your

998
00:51:26,329 --> 00:51:24,079
family back to Charlemagne yeah you are

999
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,339
now this is where two things have to

1000
00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:28,559
happen one

1001
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:30,059
um uh

1002
00:51:37,630 --> 00:51:35,520
each human being has a central nervous

1003
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:37,640
system

1004
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:39,540
that

1005
00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:41,460
is

1006
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,220
an interface if you will to the Great

1007
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:46,079
Divine

1008
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:49,680
no human being is outside of this

1009
00:52:00,109 --> 00:51:54,730
is

1010
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,130
if you drop a pebble in a pool

1011
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:09,119
you may get some pretty interesting

1012
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:11,400
individuals out of that that's the flip

1013
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,380
side of that coin

1014
00:52:19,490 --> 00:52:16,800
so uh so when you're talking about about

1015
00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:19,500
bloodline I've got a lot of my friends

1016
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:21,480
on Facebook people who have approached

1017
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:24,960
me and said hey I'm I'm related and I'll

1018
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,359
say congratulations you are walking

1019
00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:29,280
history

1020
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:31,980
and some of them have had some really

1021
00:52:36,970 --> 00:52:35,280
interesting paranormal experiences

1022
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:36,980
and

1023
00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:40,500
lucid dreams of the past

1024
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:41,160
um

1025
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:51,049
I'll leave you with that yeah the ponder

1026
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:54,119
that well we're going to circle back to

1027
00:53:00,049 --> 00:52:56,460
that the

1028
00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:00,059
um the evidence all the way from the

1029
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,000
south of France uh through the coming

1030
00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:06,240
Centuries with the mayor of engine not

1031
00:53:13,010 --> 00:53:09,660
only were they uh through the hills the

1032
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:13,020
mountains the towns and and in total

1033
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:16,260
control of uh the south of France they

1034
00:53:21,530 --> 00:53:19,500
were um they were Traders they were also

1035
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,540
the keepers of the knowledge they built

1036
00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:24,240
the churches and they were the

1037
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:25,260
government

1038
00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:29,160
um at that time and the evidence is I I

1039
00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:31,859
think is quite clear

1040
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:34,020
um from that period

1041
00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:36,420
um all the way up to Charlemagne I think

1042
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:38,760
that it's it's it's it's it's obvious

1043
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,000
and evident for researchers to to follow

1044
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,640
those breadcrumbs right it is the the

1045
00:53:51,370 --> 00:53:50,089
they really if if you will had had more

1046
00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:51,380
of an Empire

1047
00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:56,760
than than a kingdom on that Kingdom

1048
00:54:01,370 --> 00:53:58,920
covered

1049
00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:01,380
a lot of ground

1050
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:04,260
um I'm tempted to to go grab a map

1051
00:54:12,190 --> 00:54:09,119
because uh their their empire spread uh

1052
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:12,200
quite a ways North East and West yeah

1053
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,020
that's right and now

1054
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:17,760
um I'm looking at the clock we're going

1055
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:19,740
to take a break yeah yeah

1056
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:22,800
um but but yeah they were they were it

1057
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:24,119
was

1058
00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:30,890
that is correct now you mentioned caves

1059
00:54:37,609 --> 00:54:33,720
earlier they're

1060
00:54:42,349 --> 00:54:37,619
um uh there are mentions

1061
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,359
um in the Renault Chateau uh research

1062
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:45,359
um and documents about caves in those

1063
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:48,240
Hills uh that are still yet to be

1064
00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:51,540
discovered do you think that we'll find

1065
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:53,700
um one of those caves with some pretty

1066
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,630
I myself plan to

1067
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:05,630
uh it may take me a year or two to

1068
00:55:12,849 --> 00:55:10,200
Marshall my resources but I'm hoping to

1069
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:12,859
make some discoveries

1070
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,720
and then that area

1071
00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:18,000
um at the end of you know in early June

1072
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,339
I'll be down there filming

1073
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:23,280
um with the web icon

1074
00:55:29,690 --> 00:55:27,240
um uh and we're going to go to quite a

1075
00:55:32,210 --> 00:55:29,700
few locations that are important to the

1076
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:32,220
ren Le Chateau story

1077
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,460
and meet some interesting people as well

1078
00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:38,880
so uh very much looking forward to to

1079
00:55:45,970 --> 00:55:43,859
that and what shocked me about about uh

1080
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:45,980
the story

1081
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,160
The the cathar language uh which is is

1082
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,319
still spoken in southern France there

1083
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,480
are about 800 000 people that still

1084
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:56,880
speak it today was spoken as far north

1085
00:56:02,690 --> 00:55:59,700
as Chateau de la rochva called and I

1086
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,700
didn't know that until I went there and

1087
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:05,099
that's you know it's quite a ways north

1088
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:07,920
um but it's it's not far away from

1089
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:11,520
anguillen which was a one of the

1090
00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:14,819
important merivingian cities

1091
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:18,599
uh so so the the the whole forgive me

1092
00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:20,819
I'm I'm kind of wafting around a bit but

1093
00:56:25,609 --> 00:56:23,099
uh caves are incredibly important for

1094
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:25,619
initiatic experiences

1095
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:28,559
uh they're they're a quick way to jar

1096
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:30,900
someone out of their everyday mundane

1097
00:56:37,549 --> 00:56:34,440
and to help Focus you in on what's

1098
00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:37,559
happening in order to cause a an

1099
00:56:42,049 --> 00:56:39,780
interchange which causes physical

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00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:42,059
physical change so

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00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:44,760
now uh we're gonna head to a break I

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00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:49,380
wanted to pull up uh this image here and

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00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:54,079
it'll set the tone for uh when we return

1104
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:58,140
and this is from a cave what are we

1105
00:57:04,730 --> 00:56:59,520
looking at here

1106
00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:04,740
this is from Royston cave and

1107
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:08,940
Royston cave is uh just north of London

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00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:12,839
on the Roman Road and intersects with

1109
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:16,079
the ancient Celtic ichneild way

1110
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:19,500
this is a very important place

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00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:24,540
and the cave is a dome I was I suggest

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00:57:36,349 --> 00:57:32,230
and click on their virtual reality

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00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:36,359
uh link and you can spend hours pouring

1114
00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:40,140
over the carvings this carving has been

1115
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:42,660
identified as Eleanor of Aquitaine in

1116
00:57:47,930 --> 00:57:45,540
prison but there is a problem with this

1117
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:47,940
uh she is wearing a crown you can see

1118
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:50,460
the head as she is

1119
00:57:58,370 --> 00:57:55,260
seated in an Alcove not a prison uh her

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00:58:02,210 --> 00:57:58,380
body uh uh it's like an upside down

1121
00:58:05,450 --> 00:58:02,220
teardrop that that tightens to to a

1122
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:05,460
small point at her ankles and a fin

1123
00:58:11,870 --> 00:58:08,640
spills out over the ledge

1124
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,880
so this individual is actually named

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00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,440
melazine

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00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:14,880
and

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00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:19,559
Eleanor of Aquitaine is related to the

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00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:22,760
roshvak called family who claim

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00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:33,710
so I I hope that I hope you got all that

1130
00:58:39,289 --> 00:58:35,400
she's a mermaid

1131
00:58:41,569 --> 00:58:39,299
she is I'll say it I'm not afraid to say

1132
00:58:43,490 --> 00:58:41,579
it no say it and this is you know

1133
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,500
there's there's uh quite a lot behind

1134
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,839
this that I look forward to sharing with

1135
00:58:50,210 --> 00:58:47,760
you

1136
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,220
um it's just an incredible image and

1137
00:58:55,130 --> 00:58:53,040
let's take our break right here this is

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00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:55,140
Fade to Black live from the United

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00:59:01,809 --> 00:58:58,200
Kingdom Gretchen Cornwall is with us

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00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:01,819
we'll be right back oh I'm once again

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uh I am not quite right I'm so excited

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about the show tonight

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00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:09,299
um let me do this and then I'm going to

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click on this and then I'm gonna do this

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and say we'll be right back

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00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:17,099
this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black

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am your host Jimmy church that's right

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now x39 right here that's how I got my

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vision back I can't explain it

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01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:37,799
it works all right our guest tonight

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01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:41,220
Gretchen Cornwall live from the UK and

1232
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:43,500
uh tonight uh we're talking about uh

1233
01:02:49,849 --> 01:02:46,440
Mary the bloodline of uh Mary Magdalene

1234
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:49,859
and and possible ties to the Knights

1235
01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:52,680
Templar and right before the break I

1236
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:54,920
popped up an image of voiced and Cave

1237
01:03:00,530 --> 01:02:59,160
which is in the United Kingdom and uh I

1238
01:03:01,730 --> 01:03:00,540
want to get back to this image really

1239
01:03:03,370 --> 01:03:01,740
quick

1240
01:03:05,770 --> 01:03:03,380
um who carved this

1241
01:03:08,809 --> 01:03:05,780
the Knights Templar

1242
01:03:10,970 --> 01:03:08,819
that's the short of it

1243
01:03:14,089 --> 01:03:10,980
um this is just one connection between

1244
01:03:17,809 --> 01:03:14,099
the Templars and Mary Magdalene and who

1245
01:03:24,190 --> 01:03:17,819
is their ancestor let's start and how

1246
01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:27,349
okay I'll try to I'll try to I'll try to

1247
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,400
encapsulate this

1248
01:03:34,609 --> 01:03:31,680
um the the Knights Templar are drawn

1249
01:03:37,250 --> 01:03:34,619
from noble families aristocratic

1250
01:03:40,130 --> 01:03:37,260
families many uh Kings

1251
01:03:43,450 --> 01:03:40,140
uh rode with them in their lay brother

1252
01:03:47,809 --> 01:03:43,460
system uh Richard the lionheart did

1253
01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:47,819
whose mother Eleanor of Aquitaine

1254
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:48,540
um

1255
01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:51,660
is related to the Rojo called family

1256
01:04:00,170 --> 01:03:55,980
and uh uh the kings of Jerusalem

1257
01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:00,180
uh were of the the same lineage

1258
01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:04,380
so so what you have with the mermaid is

1259
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:07,980
you have a a person this is an allegory

1260
01:04:13,370 --> 01:04:11,400
of someone who is capable of navigating

1261
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:13,380
the inner planes

1262
01:04:18,609 --> 01:04:17,099
and the image of the mermaid is one of

1263
01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:18,619
seniority

1264
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:22,680
and uh and conversely you know the

1265
01:04:30,049 --> 01:04:26,640
merman or Neptune uh the Sea Beast or

1266
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:30,059
the the the water Beast that in uh that

1267
01:04:34,849 --> 01:04:32,579
fathers morave the the beginning of the

1268
01:04:37,309 --> 01:04:34,859
mayor of Indian line so you've got

1269
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:37,319
you've got the the two

1270
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:39,900
um uh

1271
01:04:46,130 --> 01:04:43,440
melazine first appears in Northern in

1272
01:04:50,990 --> 01:04:46,140
northern France

1273
01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:51,000
um uh going back to to you know maybe

1274
01:04:58,490 --> 01:04:54,319
the the uh 500s

1275
01:05:03,109 --> 01:04:58,500
and she the lusignan branch

1276
01:05:05,150 --> 01:05:03,119
um of the of of of the family were the

1277
01:05:06,349 --> 01:05:05,160
first to write down the legends of

1278
01:05:09,230 --> 01:05:06,359
melazine

1279
01:05:11,569 --> 01:05:09,240
but uh it's the roshville called family

1280
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:11,579
is actually senior

1281
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:15,839
in in line the Lucid nuns have died out

1282
01:05:20,770 --> 01:05:17,280
so the Russia called family is

1283
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:20,780
incredibly important and uh

1284
01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:22,319
melazine

1285
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:23,099
um

1286
01:05:29,210 --> 01:05:27,720
is is uh the lady of Avalon you know the

1287
01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:29,220
Lady of the Lake

1288
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,240
so go go right there you know she gives

1289
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:35,460
Excalibur to Arthur you know all of

1290
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:37,920
these Legends

1291
01:05:44,990 --> 01:05:41,760
um uh she she uh is the mother of

1292
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:45,000
Lancelot uh in some Legends or she

1293
01:05:49,390 --> 01:05:47,220
steals you know him and the Lady of the

1294
01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:49,400
Lake you know raises him but but

1295
01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:52,859
melazine is an interesting character uh

1296
01:06:00,049 --> 01:05:57,180
she she uh finds a

1297
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:00,059
um Wounded Warrior

1298
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:03,119
who is is uh the the head of the House

1299
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:07,140
of lucignan and he is he is wounded

1300
01:06:12,109 --> 01:06:09,900
um so she nurses him back to health but

1301
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:12,119
you know he in his delirium he stumbles

1302
01:06:17,690 --> 01:06:16,020
into a Magical Kingdom and there is a

1303
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:17,700
fountain with this impossibly beautiful

1304
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:20,520
woman and her two sisters

1305
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,299
but it's melazine who has all the gifts

1306
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:26,400
so the two sisters are interesting

1307
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:29,940
because the story is a repeat from her

1308
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,640
mother and grandmother so you've got An

1309
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,039
ancestry there there's always there's

1310
01:06:40,930 --> 01:06:38,400
always the main female with two sisters

1311
01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:40,940
so you're talking about An ancestry here

1312
01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:43,500
so melazine

1313
01:06:49,490 --> 01:06:46,380
um uh gets him back on his feet the the

1314
01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:49,500
count of lucidan and he says marry me

1315
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,440
and she said under one condition you

1316
01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:54,480
cannot come into my Chambers on Saturday

1317
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:56,940
and he says well okay that's a bit

1318
01:07:02,349 --> 01:06:59,400
eccentric but yes okay fine let's get

1319
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:02,359
married so they have ten Sons

1320
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:06,960
who um go on to do incredible things but

1321
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:08,880
she

1322
01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:13,520
strange Miracles like

1323
01:07:20,270 --> 01:07:17,220
building a castle in a day Building a

1324
01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:20,280
Church in a day now another way to look

1325
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,180
at that is maybe she had access to

1326
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:26,400
Cutting Edge Technology and Engineering

1327
01:07:31,329 --> 01:07:29,400
and building and enough money to hire

1328
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:31,339
some really fabulous

1329
01:07:35,870 --> 01:07:34,319
Architects and stonemasons so there are

1330
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:35,880
different ways to interpret these

1331
01:07:42,650 --> 01:07:38,480
Legends in the Practical world

1332
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,660
so the his uh they're very happy they

1333
01:07:47,690 --> 01:07:44,400
live many years the kingdom is

1334
01:07:49,309 --> 01:07:47,700
flourishing and everyone you know the

1335
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:49,319
the crowd heads from Europe are all

1336
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:51,240
coming to see who this woman is

1337
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:53,819
and uh they're all they've all fallen in

1338
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:56,339
love with her she's a big big hit

1339
01:08:02,089 --> 01:07:59,880
uh his brother however shows up one day

1340
01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:02,099
after many years of marriage and ten

1341
01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:03,240
Sons

1342
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:05,880
and starts whispering in his ear and

1343
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:08,940
says you know are you so sure those that

1344
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,760
your sons are your sons are you sure she

1345
01:08:17,209 --> 01:08:13,440
doesn't have a lover in there every

1346
01:08:21,709 --> 01:08:17,219
Saturday so you know he gets worried and

1347
01:08:25,130 --> 01:08:21,719
peeks through a hole in in the door and

1348
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:25,140
sees his wife in her bath but she's got

1349
01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:28,440
a tail instead of legs

1350
01:08:33,709 --> 01:08:30,540
melzine immediately understands that

1351
01:08:37,309 --> 01:08:33,719
she's been rumbled it gets incredibly

1352
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:37,319
upset turns into a dragon and flies away

1353
01:08:43,789 --> 01:08:39,839
never to be seen again and of course

1354
01:08:45,890 --> 01:08:43,799
he's distraught there was no lover and

1355
01:08:49,070 --> 01:08:45,900
the kingdom falls apart

1356
01:08:51,490 --> 01:08:49,080
but his the children and the the line

1357
01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:51,500
continues

1358
01:08:56,689 --> 01:08:54,140
down the centuries

1359
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:56,699
uh there's

1360
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:01,199
a really important factor here

1361
01:09:08,689 --> 01:09:03,839
why Saturday

1362
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:08,699
important

1363
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:11,699
Sunday is the Christian holy day

1364
01:09:17,570 --> 01:09:15,120
because that's the the the the day uh uh

1365
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:17,580
that he he he rose

1366
01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:20,699
um according according to biblical texts

1367
01:09:24,890 --> 01:09:22,020
however

1368
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:24,900
Saturday is the Sabbath The Jewish

1369
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:28,560
Sabbath now why is that important in a

1370
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:31,440
Christian World well if she's been found

1371
01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:34,799
to have fairly recent 500 years she's a

1372
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:36,299
Jewish

1373
01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:38,640
that's dire that could be

1374
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:40,739
life-threatening so here's a very rich

1375
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:44,460
powerful you know couch who's married to

1376
01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:48,719
a woman who's descended from a family in

1377
01:09:53,870 --> 01:09:53,100
Exile uh you know Mary Magdalene

1378
01:09:57,169 --> 01:09:53,880
um

1379
01:09:58,490 --> 01:09:57,179
uh the you know this woman emelizine is

1380
01:10:00,169 --> 01:09:58,500
descended from

1381
01:10:01,850 --> 01:10:00,179
she immediately has got to go into

1382
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:01,860
hiding doesn't she

1383
01:10:09,229 --> 01:10:05,760
she's she has to leave she's Jewish in

1384
01:10:10,689 --> 01:10:09,239
medieval history is full of of accounts

1385
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:10,699
of of of

1386
01:10:18,290 --> 01:10:15,960
persecution and um uh you know if if you

1387
01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:18,300
were a rich Rich Lord and you were shy

1388
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:20,280
on cash what you do is you you go to

1389
01:10:25,070 --> 01:10:23,340
your Jewish neighbor uh steal from them

1390
01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:25,080
and then kick them out of your your

1391
01:10:31,250 --> 01:10:28,620
kingdom or your your little fiefdom that

1392
01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:31,260
happened over and over and over again

1393
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:34,980
so you know that's the clue right here

1394
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,980
is the Dragon part and the tail is that

1395
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:39,540
just metaphor

1396
01:10:46,370 --> 01:10:43,500
for her having to have left or maybe

1397
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:46,380
even kicked out well that's getting into

1398
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,880
an interesting uh discussion here uh

1399
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,280
that that probably could take up another

1400
01:11:00,169 --> 01:10:56,480
another program right

1401
01:11:02,689 --> 01:11:00,179
uh but but you know are you aware of the

1402
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:02,699
order of the Dragon

1403
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:06,600
um that Vlad dracul's uh grandfather

1404
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,040
created I am actually okay so you've got

1405
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:13,440
that and also

1406
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:14,580
um

1407
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:17,540
Uther Pendragon the name pen Dragon

1408
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:20,239
means head Dragon

1409
01:11:27,530 --> 01:11:24,000
uh the Welsh flag is the red dragon on a

1410
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,540
white field and according to Welsh

1411
01:11:30,850 --> 01:11:30,000
Legends the white dragon and the red

1412
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:30,860
dragon

1413
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,340
uh fought a jewel for supremacy of Wales

1414
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:38,400
and the Red Dragon one so who are who

1415
01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:40,860
who are the dragons

1416
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:44,219
and and it's this is part of the the

1417
01:11:51,229 --> 01:11:48,000
lineage mystery so you're talking about

1418
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:51,239
some very talented individuals here a

1419
01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:54,239
very strong individuals who who could

1420
01:11:59,330 --> 01:11:55,620
potentially

1421
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:59,340
uh be a threat to the status quo yeah no

1422
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:02,960
and and dragon again symbolic right

1423
01:12:11,390 --> 01:12:06,840
symbolic to the actual story

1424
01:12:19,130 --> 01:12:16,430
I would like to stay symbolic uh there

1425
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:19,140
are some pretty powerful people out

1426
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:22,800
there you've got Merlin you know Legend

1427
01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:26,580
you know look at the medieval Saints

1428
01:12:33,250 --> 01:12:28,440
um I've done a lot of studying about

1429
01:12:37,850 --> 01:12:35,990
performing miracles on par with what

1430
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,860
Jesus did they're raising people from

1431
01:12:43,729 --> 01:12:39,360
the dead they're walking on water

1432
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:43,739
they're dueling with with beasties uh uh

1433
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,060
in in big lakes but um uh when you want

1434
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,440
to bring in shape-shifting reptilian

1435
01:12:58,430 --> 01:12:53,760
aliens I'm on

1436
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,450
that's another topic uh uh fair enough

1437
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:04,560
fair enough it's

1438
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:07,860
I have some pretty strong feelings and

1439
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:11,100
and and thoughts on on that front one

1440
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,719
one thing we're not alone in the

1441
01:13:18,910 --> 01:13:14,400
universe

1442
01:13:23,450 --> 01:13:18,920
um uh uh there you can't discount

1443
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,460
uh the UFO phenomenon uh we all know

1444
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:25,679
what it is

1445
01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:28,260
um there are different beings that have

1446
01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:29,420
been

1447
01:13:34,189 --> 01:13:32,460
uh visiting this planet since before

1448
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:34,199
there were human beings

1449
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:38,400
now this does not mean that the

1450
01:13:43,310 --> 01:13:40,260
spirituality

1451
01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:43,320
that came to us through

1452
01:13:49,970 --> 01:13:47,580
this great being that we call Jesus or

1453
01:13:53,050 --> 01:13:49,980
Yeshua

1454
01:13:56,689 --> 01:13:53,060
um uh that does not

1455
01:14:00,110 --> 01:13:56,699
degrade his importance and this is what

1456
01:14:04,370 --> 01:14:00,120
I I I wish that other Christians would

1457
01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:04,380
come to is if if the Great Divine is big

1458
01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:07,380
enough to hold all of this together we

1459
01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:09,960
shouldn't be threatened by visitors from

1460
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:15,179
other world if not our distant ancestors

1461
01:14:21,229 --> 01:14:18,480
or not so distant so you know we really

1462
01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:21,239
mustn't be threatened

1463
01:14:29,570 --> 01:14:26,580
on the alien reptilian alien uh uh

1464
01:14:31,729 --> 01:14:29,580
situation is a double-sided coin

1465
01:14:33,649 --> 01:14:31,739
there's a positive side and there's a

1466
01:14:36,050 --> 01:14:33,659
negative side there are good dragons

1467
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:36,060
there are bad dragons

1468
01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:39,840
um I I can't go down the path that the

1469
01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:43,860
world is run by these shape-shifting

1470
01:14:49,729 --> 01:14:46,440
reptilian aliens who are impersonating

1471
01:14:51,649 --> 01:14:49,739
human beings I denounced that completely

1472
01:14:55,310 --> 01:14:51,659
and there's a lot of reasons why a lot

1473
01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:55,320
of them practical too if you really want

1474
01:15:00,649 --> 01:14:58,020
to get down to it

1475
01:15:03,649 --> 01:15:00,659
follow the money just follow the money

1476
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,659
and you'll find your your economic uh

1477
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:06,480
answers and and problems what is causing

1478
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:07,920
problems

1479
01:15:13,490 --> 01:15:09,719
so uh

1480
01:15:15,709 --> 01:15:13,500
I do think different different uh uh ETS

1481
01:15:17,870 --> 01:15:15,719
have been here there's the tall blondes

1482
01:15:21,709 --> 01:15:17,880
the tall dark hair it's tall redheads

1483
01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:21,719
perhaps the the sources of the tuatha de

1484
01:15:24,850 --> 01:15:23,340
dunan

1485
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:24,860
um

1486
01:15:42,169 --> 01:15:39,649
actually looks like a reptile through

1487
01:15:46,370 --> 01:15:42,179
the through the you know that growth

1488
01:15:48,290 --> 01:15:46,380
process uh uh so we all we all have that

1489
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,300
fight flight we all go through that

1490
01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:49,920
shift

1491
01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:53,699
um uh it's an it's an endlessly

1492
01:15:58,490 --> 01:15:56,520
fascinating topic it is it is I had Paul

1493
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:58,500
Wallace on the show earlier this week

1494
01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:00,960
and and I asked Paul we were talking

1495
01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:03,960
about this subject and I said you know

1496
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:06,179
the the Flying Saucer lands on the White

1497
01:16:11,630 --> 01:16:08,880
House lawn right stairs come down

1498
01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:11,640
E.T starts stepping I I asked him I said

1499
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,739
would you be surprised if it was Jesus

1500
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:15,920
that stepped off and goes no not really

1501
01:16:21,709 --> 01:16:19,199
I wouldn't be surprised either not

1502
01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:21,719
really not I wouldn't be surprised I've

1503
01:16:28,189 --> 01:16:24,060
often thought you know that's probably

1504
01:16:30,530 --> 01:16:28,199
how it's going to happen and and all the

1505
01:16:34,510 --> 01:16:30,540
Bible is full of these stories and that

1506
01:16:36,169 --> 01:16:34,520
doesn't mean that the the

1507
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:36,179
E.T

1508
01:16:44,330 --> 01:16:40,760
isn't spiritual in fact incredibly

1509
01:16:46,850 --> 01:16:44,340
Advanced uh to you know we're talking

1510
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:46,860
Marvel Comics here

1511
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:49,440
um and and the ancient you know the gods

1512
01:16:56,270 --> 01:16:52,560
of of or that are in our mythologies

1513
01:16:59,090 --> 01:16:56,280
around the world portray very human

1514
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,100
uh Tendencies of jealousies they have

1515
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:01,679
extraordinary powers where the human the

1516
01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:04,560
population base you know gets gets

1517
01:17:11,390 --> 01:17:08,100
trounced on by these super beings but

1518
01:17:15,530 --> 01:17:11,400
amongst super beings there are super

1519
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:18,709
cultures uh that that can

1520
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:21,840
uh that that uh what's the term I'm

1521
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:24,480
trying to find you know embody right

1522
01:17:29,870 --> 01:17:27,360
right right right embody the Great

1523
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:29,880
Divine well there's another part to this

1524
01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:32,100
too and then we're we're going to move

1525
01:17:38,750 --> 01:17:37,260
on but I subscribe to another idea not

1526
01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:38,760
completely

1527
01:17:45,649 --> 01:17:42,120
but let's look at it like this

1528
01:17:47,689 --> 01:17:45,659
if E.T any of them and there's an

1529
01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:47,699
infinite amount of civilizations out

1530
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,800
there it's a crazy amount of life in the

1531
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:52,080
universe but if they are aware of Earth

1532
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:53,760
they've been studying us for a long time

1533
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:55,679
they know our languages they know our

1534
01:18:00,290 --> 01:17:58,320
habits they know what we look like and

1535
01:18:01,310 --> 01:18:00,300
they also know what's not going to freak

1536
01:18:04,810 --> 01:18:01,320
us out

1537
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,820
so if they were this is just some

1538
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:07,679
hypothesis if they were to arrive here

1539
01:18:12,410 --> 01:18:10,320
they wouldn't want to freak us out in

1540
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,420
their image

1541
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:14,940
Elvis would step off of that Flying

1542
01:18:20,510 --> 01:18:18,719
Saucer right we wouldn't freak out I I

1543
01:18:24,110 --> 01:18:20,520
understand what you're saying and

1544
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:24,120
freaked out on Jesus and and I wouldn't

1545
01:18:30,290 --> 01:18:27,360
be surprised if it was approached that

1546
01:18:33,050 --> 01:18:30,300
way they wouldn't want to freak us out

1547
01:18:34,970 --> 01:18:33,060
that's just one idea

1548
01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:34,980
um it could be something else but I

1549
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,420
wouldn't be surprised if that was the

1550
01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:43,250
I am I'm open to that concept I think

1551
01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:46,340
it's important to

1552
01:18:49,390 --> 01:18:47,940
consider

1553
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:49,400
options

1554
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:53,280
and I

1555
01:19:00,410 --> 01:18:57,199
in all of the the civilizations that are

1556
01:19:02,930 --> 01:19:00,420
mathematically possible out there and

1557
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,940
and you know science in the way it's

1558
01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:05,520
it's been discussed in the last 20 years

1559
01:19:09,470 --> 01:19:07,620
has gone from saying there's absolutely

1560
01:19:11,630 --> 01:19:09,480
no life out there we're the only ones

1561
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:11,640
and they're slowly saying yes there is

1562
01:19:19,010 --> 01:19:14,880
life out there there can't not be okay

1563
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:19,020
and within what um a recent

1564
01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:22,920
um uh the the uh was it the Navy or the

1565
01:19:29,450 --> 01:19:25,980
air force that released the footage

1566
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:29,460
the the fighter pilot footage of them

1567
01:19:35,570 --> 01:19:32,100
encountering uh

1568
01:19:38,209 --> 01:19:35,580
uh a couple attack yeah the Tic Tac so

1569
01:19:39,770 --> 01:19:38,219
so you know when the Air Force decides

1570
01:19:42,530 --> 01:19:39,780
to go and do something like that or the

1571
01:19:44,990 --> 01:19:42,540
Navy you know something is changing so

1572
01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:45,000
we've had this progression over the

1573
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:45,960
years

1574
01:19:54,110 --> 01:19:50,960
and uh we can't not say that a highly

1575
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,120
technological Society wouldn't also be

1576
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:55,920
uh

1577
01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:00,239
spiritually Advanced and in line with

1578
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:03,659
the the great all that is yeah it would

1579
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:07,320
have to be that way and and I'm saying

1580
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,520
this pretty matter-of-facly that if we

1581
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:13,440
um if we even

1582
01:20:20,209 --> 01:20:18,000
contemplate what we would be

1583
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:20,219
um not only physically but spiritually

1584
01:20:26,930 --> 01:20:23,520
in 10 000 years it's gonna look like

1585
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:26,940
this no I I agree I I agree with you

1586
01:20:31,790 --> 01:20:30,000
we're going to be very different uh wish

1587
01:20:34,729 --> 01:20:31,800
we were going to be around to see what

1588
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:34,739
that looked like I know right

1589
01:20:42,350 --> 01:20:38,520
okay let's pull up this next image is uh

1590
01:20:43,729 --> 01:20:42,360
the the pillar of Da Vinci uh what's

1591
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:43,739
going on here

1592
01:20:49,070 --> 01:20:45,840
this

1593
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:49,080
roshville called us at the right hand

1594
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:50,400
corner

1595
01:20:55,130 --> 01:20:53,040
corporate's map I apologize I didn't

1596
01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:55,140
send that to you I know you've had Scott

1597
01:21:03,050 --> 01:20:57,780
Walter on quite a lot and he is doing a

1598
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:03,060
lot of work on uh that uh uh topic

1599
01:21:08,570 --> 01:21:06,480
um one of the ways I've been uh tackling

1600
01:21:11,689 --> 01:21:08,580
this is to go to the locations that are

1601
01:21:14,350 --> 01:21:11,699
mentioned on in the Carmona document so

1602
01:21:19,550 --> 01:21:14,360
this is uh Chateau de la rochva called

1603
01:21:23,689 --> 01:21:19,560
uh they are a a direct descendants of

1604
01:21:26,570 --> 01:21:23,699
melazine she is their family crest they

1605
01:21:31,310 --> 01:21:26,580
have lived in this Castle held this

1606
01:21:34,189 --> 01:21:31,320
position for 900 years think on that as

1607
01:21:37,070 --> 01:21:34,199
you consider the revolutions that have

1608
01:21:40,250 --> 01:21:37,080
gone on politically in France so this is

1609
01:21:42,770 --> 01:21:40,260
the da Vinci stairwell

1610
01:21:45,890 --> 01:21:42,780
um we don't know if Da Vinci built it

1611
01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:45,900
himself but this is one of his designs

1612
01:21:54,050 --> 01:21:48,360
there are only

1613
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:54,060
um maybe 16 of these varying Natures in

1614
01:22:02,770 --> 01:21:59,520
castles in France today uh but it it is

1615
01:22:04,850 --> 01:22:02,780
actually I I was quite dizzy you know

1616
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:04,860
climbing this thing

1617
01:22:10,970 --> 01:22:07,920
very beautiful it

1618
01:22:14,630 --> 01:22:10,980
made it filled me with awe

1619
01:22:16,970 --> 01:22:14,640
uh but I I felt very light-headed as

1620
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:16,980
well and I actually had to to stop

1621
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:19,380
several times so there's a lot of energy

1622
01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:22,560
happening on this stairwell in this

1623
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:25,560
Castle it's very beautiful very very

1624
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:27,300
beautiful

1625
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:30,480
um this is fascinating this is about 40

1626
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:33,920
miles south of Berlin

1627
01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:37,199
Germany holds a special relationship

1628
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:39,540
with not only Mary Magdalene but Bernard

1629
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:42,300
de clervo who was a mastermind behind

1630
01:22:52,250 --> 01:22:47,520
the Templar night order he actually uh

1631
01:22:55,550 --> 01:22:52,260
created he took a failing order the

1632
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:55,560
cistercian order and turned it into an

1633
01:23:02,990 --> 01:22:59,280
international uh Juggernaut really and

1634
01:23:04,570 --> 01:23:03,000
he he gave the rule book from the

1635
01:23:10,330 --> 01:23:04,580
cistercians

1636
01:23:13,850 --> 01:23:10,340
to the uh Hugh depayan to the Templars

1637
01:23:17,390 --> 01:23:13,860
he was a great supporter behind the

1638
01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:17,400
scenes of the Templars and Templars are

1639
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,000
cistercians with swords so um long story

1640
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:23,760
short Bernard de clarvo gives his Crow's

1641
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:27,840
ear to Spire cathedral in Germany which

1642
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:31,140
is dedicated to Mary Magdalene so this

1643
01:23:36,830 --> 01:23:34,080
is on the left hand side an image of

1644
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:36,840
Mary Magdalene holding three children to

1645
01:23:42,590 --> 01:23:39,600
her feet one in her arms various ages

1646
01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:42,600
her alabaster jar is at her feet and

1647
01:23:47,630 --> 01:23:45,780
this the shell of Venus is behind her

1648
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:47,640
head

1649
01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:50,480
um next to her in the middle there is

1650
01:23:55,310 --> 01:23:52,980
fascinating you have a a woman in

1651
01:23:58,370 --> 01:23:55,320
medieval dress now these carvings were

1652
01:24:01,729 --> 01:23:58,380
probably done around I would say 17 30

1653
01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:01,739
into 1750 and through there and this is

1654
01:24:08,450 --> 01:24:04,460
the height of the rosicrucians uh the

1655
01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:08,460
Freemasons so you know you've got this

1656
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:12,540
woman with her her left knee uh exposed

1657
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,080
holding the sword of truth and you have

1658
01:24:23,810 --> 01:24:19,199
a priest uh with his his right knee

1659
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,820
exposed and this is an allegory of of uh

1660
01:24:28,430 --> 01:24:25,520
Templar is

1661
01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:28,440
embracing uh the bloodline and Mary

1662
01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:31,860
Magdalene and women and priestesses

1663
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:36,840
as being welcomed into templarism which

1664
01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:42,239
would have been an original uh

1665
01:24:48,169 --> 01:24:45,480
Branch if you will love of the Templars

1666
01:24:50,209 --> 01:24:48,179
in secret of course you know not all

1667
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:50,219
Templars were aware of this you know you

1668
01:24:54,649 --> 01:24:51,840
would have had to have been pretty high

1669
01:24:55,310 --> 01:24:54,659
up to to know these things

1670
01:24:58,010 --> 01:24:55,320
um

1671
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:58,020
there were female Templars as well in

1672
01:25:03,709 --> 01:25:01,020
Spain they were actually Templar female

1673
01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:03,719
Abbeys in southern Spain

1674
01:25:09,890 --> 01:25:07,560
now we have Mary with three kids here

1675
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:09,900
um that's Sarah and the two sons do we

1676
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:12,000
have names for the two sons no

1677
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:14,100
unfortunately no

1678
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:16,260
um we don't uh what's in the alabaster

1679
01:25:23,090 --> 01:25:17,280
jar

1680
01:25:27,169 --> 01:25:23,100
those are the the very expensive oils

1681
01:25:28,669 --> 01:25:27,179
um that were uh

1682
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,679
used

1683
01:25:34,729 --> 01:25:30,719
well you know we're coming up on a

1684
01:25:35,689 --> 01:25:34,739
coronation here uh this come on the

1685
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:35,699
sixth

1686
01:25:44,030 --> 01:25:38,460
uh King Charles the the third will be

1687
01:25:47,390 --> 01:25:44,040
anointed uh with oils on his head

1688
01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:47,400
um in the tradition of of Jesus of

1689
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:51,179
Yeshua being anointed as the Christ did

1690
01:25:59,689 --> 01:25:55,920
one as the you know this is a a Hallmark

1691
01:26:03,229 --> 01:25:59,699
of of kingship and

1692
01:26:05,810 --> 01:26:03,239
of course you know the the the

1693
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:05,820
the men and don't like this she's

1694
01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:08,880
performing this ceremony and the male

1695
01:26:13,250 --> 01:26:10,920
disciples actually don't like it which

1696
01:26:18,169 --> 01:26:13,260
is interesting one why are they jealous

1697
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:18,179
of of him being anointed as the king

1698
01:26:24,110 --> 01:26:22,560
so that's weird uh why are they you know

1699
01:26:25,550 --> 01:26:24,120
they're they're they're picking on Mary

1700
01:26:27,470 --> 01:26:25,560
magdalene's thing she shouldn't be doing

1701
01:26:29,330 --> 01:26:27,480
that it's too expensive why are you

1702
01:26:32,510 --> 01:26:29,340
letting this woman do that

1703
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:32,520
uh so so here she is saying this is the

1704
01:26:35,870 --> 01:26:33,600
king

1705
01:26:39,530 --> 01:26:35,880
and they're angry

1706
01:26:42,590 --> 01:26:39,540
so that is interesting so so you know uh

1707
01:26:44,209 --> 01:26:42,600
and I am not at all

1708
01:26:46,250 --> 01:26:44,219
uh

1709
01:26:48,770 --> 01:26:46,260
how do I say it this is my quick

1710
01:26:51,470 --> 01:26:48,780
disclaimer here there are so many

1711
01:26:54,350 --> 01:26:51,480
wonderful Catholics in the world who

1712
01:26:57,229 --> 01:26:54,360
hold the golden thread of spirituality

1713
01:27:02,629 --> 01:26:57,239
that runs through Catholicism

1714
01:27:04,970 --> 01:27:02,639
in its that golden part that is is

1715
01:27:08,090 --> 01:27:04,980
ethical Humane

1716
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:08,100
etc etc it's it's it's those that hide

1717
01:27:14,750 --> 01:27:11,520
under the umbrella and abuse

1718
01:27:18,290 --> 01:27:14,760
and you you know abuse the the system

1719
01:27:21,229 --> 01:27:18,300
that that need to be shifted out

1720
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:21,239
so you cannot you know

1721
01:27:26,750 --> 01:27:23,820
there are two billion Christians in the

1722
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,760
world okay that's not going to change

1723
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:29,040
it's not going to go away

1724
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,360
uh 2 billion that's a lot and underneath

1725
01:27:38,450 --> 01:27:35,280
that there are 35 000 different

1726
01:27:40,010 --> 01:27:38,460
Christian sects in the world I can't

1727
01:27:44,450 --> 01:27:40,020
even tell you what all those different

1728
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:44,460
sects think believe practice and feel

1729
01:27:50,450 --> 01:27:47,400
so you know we have to accept that that

1730
01:27:54,830 --> 01:27:50,460
Christianity is here to stay

1731
01:27:58,030 --> 01:27:54,840
um and and we need to be be talking to

1732
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:58,040
our fellow human beings in with respect

1733
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:01,679
so that's my quick disclaimer there

1734
01:28:05,450 --> 01:28:03,840
um and that's not to say that that I

1735
01:28:09,530 --> 01:28:05,460
don't think the pope should be married

1736
01:28:13,010 --> 01:28:09,540
with with children I do and and that

1737
01:28:15,709 --> 01:28:13,020
that the the issues with with uh abuse

1738
01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:15,719
you know the Magdalene laundries the the

1739
01:28:22,370 --> 01:28:19,260
pedophile priests uh can't you know

1740
01:28:24,830 --> 01:28:22,380
needs to be addressed and and uh I saw

1741
01:28:28,129 --> 01:28:24,840
an incredible documentary long story

1742
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:28,139
short uh the Catholic church is an

1743
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:31,320
umbrella for multiple orders underneath

1744
01:28:35,570 --> 01:28:32,159
it

1745
01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:35,580
spread around the world and the pope is

1746
01:28:41,390 --> 01:28:38,699
actually not able to push a button on

1747
01:28:45,530 --> 01:28:41,400
his desk and disperse change

1748
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:45,540
that that's not possible you need people

1749
01:28:51,250 --> 01:28:48,480
in the community to protect

1750
01:28:54,729 --> 01:28:51,260
the organization at the community level

1751
01:28:58,189 --> 01:28:54,739
and keep everybody accountable

1752
01:29:01,310 --> 01:28:58,199
accountability is so necessary in in our

1753
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,320
finances in in government without

1754
01:29:06,110 --> 01:29:03,840
accountability you know that's when

1755
01:29:07,610 --> 01:29:06,120
that's when everything goes wrong and

1756
01:29:09,470 --> 01:29:07,620
we're seeing that play out in so many

1757
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:09,480
different ways since the financial crash

1758
01:29:13,850 --> 01:29:11,280
of 2008.

1759
01:29:15,649 --> 01:29:13,860
so anyway that's my disclaimer

1760
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:15,659
um um so I apologize what were we

1761
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:16,800
talking about

1762
01:29:22,930 --> 01:29:21,900
yeah we don't have names for the two

1763
01:29:27,050 --> 01:29:22,940
sons

1764
01:29:29,810 --> 01:29:27,060
unfortunately and uh are there

1765
01:29:32,090 --> 01:29:29,820
it looks to me in that and other images

1766
01:29:34,970 --> 01:29:32,100
too it's not just this one

1767
01:29:37,729 --> 01:29:34,980
um it looks like a mother with with

1768
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,739
three children and the way that the

1769
01:29:42,430 --> 01:29:40,440
children are depicted adoring their

1770
01:29:45,530 --> 01:29:42,440
mother that's what you see

1771
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:45,540
and but there are those that'll say Ah

1772
01:29:50,209 --> 01:29:47,520
that's Jesus that's Jesus and John the

1773
01:29:53,149 --> 01:29:50,219
Baptist that's Jesus and and a couple of

1774
01:29:56,030 --> 01:29:53,159
his buddies that's the the the

1775
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,040
um I I I I I never really see it that

1776
01:30:01,850 --> 01:29:59,760
way and it's it's that nobody really

1777
01:30:05,229 --> 01:30:01,860
wants to

1778
01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:05,239
um uh if if you are a religious scholar

1779
01:30:10,129 --> 01:30:08,580
uh or you know a part of the church that

1780
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:10,139
you're not going to say that you're not

1781
01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:12,239
going to say that that's Mary with with

1782
01:30:16,850 --> 01:30:15,120
with kids and I I just don't understand

1783
01:30:20,270 --> 01:30:16,860
that when clearly that's what's being

1784
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:20,280
depicted yeah uh you know this is where

1785
01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:22,320
uh the the

1786
01:30:25,629 --> 01:30:23,219
um

1787
01:30:33,530 --> 01:30:25,639
art schools

1788
01:30:37,010 --> 01:30:33,540
protected uh this secret as well as uh

1789
01:30:40,129 --> 01:30:37,020
uh you you have to have be able to

1790
01:30:46,850 --> 01:30:43,310
famous works of art

1791
01:30:48,649 --> 01:30:46,860
in two ways there's the secret way of of

1792
01:30:51,470 --> 01:30:48,659
hiding it in plain sight and then

1793
01:30:52,910 --> 01:30:51,480
there's the accepted narrative

1794
01:30:55,250 --> 01:30:52,920
and

1795
01:30:57,530 --> 01:30:55,260
I go into a lot of that in my in my

1796
01:31:00,649 --> 01:30:57,540
first book uh examining different

1797
01:31:03,709 --> 01:31:00,659
paintings and statues

1798
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:03,719
so it's it's once you understand how to

1799
01:31:10,430 --> 01:31:06,960
look at that uh you start seeing it

1800
01:31:13,550 --> 01:31:10,440
everywhere and yes John the Baptist uh

1801
01:31:17,689 --> 01:31:13,560
was was was real

1802
01:31:20,030 --> 01:31:17,699
um uh he did uh uh they were cousins he

1803
01:31:24,229 --> 01:31:20,040
was the older cousin should have been

1804
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:24,239
King wasn't so Jesus had to step in and

1805
01:31:30,110 --> 01:31:25,920
he did

1806
01:31:34,729 --> 01:31:30,120
um uh but uh that particular statue from

1807
01:31:38,290 --> 01:31:34,739
Germany uh where is uh where is John the

1808
01:31:41,629 --> 01:31:38,300
Baptist's mother in that in that image

1809
01:31:44,209 --> 01:31:41,639
and those paintings have been changed

1810
01:31:47,090 --> 01:31:44,219
also over the years too as well yeah and

1811
01:31:48,490 --> 01:31:47,100
still have the black Madonnas in

1812
01:31:51,830 --> 01:31:48,500
cathedrals

1813
01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:51,840
they've actually painted them white uh

1814
01:31:55,970 --> 01:31:53,120
the uh

1815
01:31:59,390 --> 01:31:55,980
unfortunately uh was it shorts uh

1816
01:32:01,810 --> 01:31:59,400
Cathedral they they to end the

1817
01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:01,820
discussion on the black uh Madonna

1818
01:32:08,990 --> 01:32:05,100
painted her white

1819
01:32:11,870 --> 01:32:09,000
so okay what uh what's going on here

1820
01:32:13,129 --> 01:32:11,880
okay well this is a rather aged endour

1821
01:32:16,250 --> 01:32:13,139
looking

1822
01:32:20,330 --> 01:32:16,260
uh King Edward the third

1823
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:20,340
and he is a follow-on from uh the fall

1824
01:32:27,110 --> 01:32:24,000
of the Knights Templar uh the date 1348

1825
01:32:31,490 --> 01:32:27,120
comes to mind so you know this is within

1826
01:32:34,189 --> 01:32:31,500
he's within a generation of of uh the

1827
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:34,199
Templars now

1828
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,920
she um he's an interesting character at

1829
01:32:43,010 --> 01:32:40,080
the age of 18

1830
01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:43,020
with a small group of men and I like to

1831
01:32:46,370 --> 01:32:44,340
think there might have been a Templar or

1832
01:32:47,950 --> 01:32:46,380
two in that small group

1833
01:32:51,470 --> 01:32:47,960
during the

1834
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:51,480
castle of Nottingham Castle of Sherwood

1835
01:32:58,490 --> 01:32:54,960
Forest Forest Fame through a series of

1836
01:33:02,270 --> 01:32:58,500
tunnels underneath the castle to arrest

1837
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:02,280
his mother and her lover

1838
01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:04,260
um her mother may have his mother may

1839
01:33:11,390 --> 01:33:06,840
have been pregnant but if that was the

1840
01:33:13,490 --> 01:33:11,400
case then uh Edward III's life was in

1841
01:33:17,390 --> 01:33:13,500
danger and he knew it

1842
01:33:18,890 --> 01:33:17,400
so he arrested his mother uh executed

1843
01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:18,900
her lover

1844
01:33:26,030 --> 01:33:22,400
and uh took his throne back

1845
01:33:29,629 --> 01:33:26,040
she was you know queen regent and she

1846
01:33:33,290 --> 01:33:29,639
really didn't want to give power uh to

1847
01:33:35,930 --> 01:33:33,300
her her son who at age 18 was in his

1848
01:33:37,610 --> 01:33:35,940
majority so he was he feared for his

1849
01:33:40,610 --> 01:33:37,620
life

1850
01:33:44,450 --> 01:33:40,620
um now his father Edward II had been

1851
01:33:46,910 --> 01:33:44,460
murdered and lost a decisive battle

1852
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:46,920
uh Bannockburn

1853
01:33:53,930 --> 01:33:51,360
um in Scotland which is rumored to he

1854
01:33:56,510 --> 01:33:53,940
gosh forgive me I'm I'm losing it a bit

1855
01:34:01,310 --> 01:33:56,520
uh he lost 24

1856
01:34:04,910 --> 01:34:01,320
000 uh Englishmen fighting the Scots and

1857
01:34:07,810 --> 01:34:04,920
um that was rumored on the field that

1858
01:34:11,450 --> 01:34:07,820
there were white Knights on Horseback

1859
01:34:13,970 --> 01:34:11,460
who helped Robert the Bruce win that

1860
01:34:16,729 --> 01:34:13,980
battle uh Templars

1861
01:34:18,649 --> 01:34:16,739
so his his father the Hammer of the

1862
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:18,659
Scots Edward first

1863
01:34:23,689 --> 01:34:21,360
uh you know so this is who Edward III is

1864
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:23,699
and comes from a very illustrious

1865
01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:26,159
background now Edward the first you know

1866
01:34:30,770 --> 01:34:28,260
was a Templar supporter

1867
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:30,780
and this is where England gets really

1868
01:34:35,930 --> 01:34:33,840
interesting you cannot take the Templar

1869
01:34:37,550 --> 01:34:35,940
out of England

1870
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,560
and

1871
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:39,360
um there were Templars that were

1872
01:34:46,010 --> 01:34:42,239
arrested uh some of them died in

1873
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:46,020
captivity but some of them got away

1874
01:34:50,530 --> 01:34:49,679
um Edward III wanted

1875
01:34:54,590 --> 01:34:50,540
to

1876
01:34:56,450 --> 01:34:54,600
embrace the Legends all of them about

1877
01:35:00,169 --> 01:34:56,460
King Arthur

1878
01:35:03,410 --> 01:35:00,179
and created the order of the Garter and

1879
01:35:04,010 --> 01:35:03,420
the Garter he was

1880
01:35:06,890 --> 01:35:04,020
um

1881
01:35:10,129 --> 01:35:06,900
uh at a feast he was holding a great

1882
01:35:13,550 --> 01:35:10,139
feast and a lady of the Court

1883
01:35:15,649 --> 01:35:13,560
her garter fell off her thigh which in

1884
01:35:19,010 --> 01:35:15,659
those days if you even showed your ankle

1885
01:35:21,290 --> 01:35:19,020
you were you know you were considered a

1886
01:35:25,370 --> 01:35:21,300
prostitute you know the rules were so so

1887
01:35:29,330 --> 01:35:25,380
tight so he actually picks it up puts it

1888
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:29,340
on his own thigh and says uh shame on

1889
01:35:35,209 --> 01:35:32,880
him who think evil of it now of course

1890
01:35:38,090 --> 01:35:35,219
the speculation on what all of that

1891
01:35:39,370 --> 01:35:38,100
means is is quite something the Garter

1892
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:39,380
is round

1893
01:35:47,570 --> 01:35:43,440
uh has a buckle on it and it is the most

1894
01:35:50,990 --> 01:35:47,580
prestigious Royal chivalrous order order

1895
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,000
still in existence today and

1896
01:35:55,729 --> 01:35:53,760
um uh it is a is you know it's if you're

1897
01:35:57,410 --> 01:35:55,739
if you're appointed as an order of the

1898
01:36:01,550 --> 01:35:57,420
Garter it's for life

1899
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:01,560
uh so he created the order of the Garter

1900
01:36:06,590 --> 01:36:02,480
um

1901
01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:06,600
started to reshape Windsor Castle with a

1902
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:08,239
large round table

1903
01:36:15,950 --> 01:36:12,960
uh uh for his his Knights of the Round

1904
01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:15,960
Table so he was really going for it but

1905
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,480
then he abandoned the plans and and got

1906
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:20,639
into a war with his cousins and friends

1907
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:25,520
now long story short uh Edward III

1908
01:36:33,770 --> 01:36:28,800
forced out the hospitalers

1909
01:36:35,530 --> 01:36:33,780
who had control of the church in the

1910
01:36:39,050 --> 01:36:35,540
town of Royston

1911
01:36:42,890 --> 01:36:39,060
Royston cave is right underneath the

1912
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:42,900
crossroads of the Roman Road out of

1913
01:36:51,410 --> 01:36:47,280
London and the Celtic icknield way that

1914
01:36:54,050 --> 01:36:51,420
that runs across it it is you know the

1915
01:36:56,570 --> 01:36:54,060
Templars were all about having a

1916
01:36:59,090 --> 01:36:56,580
presence at a Crossroads so that they

1917
01:37:01,850 --> 01:36:59,100
would know for security who's coming in

1918
01:37:03,890 --> 01:37:01,860
who's going out and of course do they

1919
01:37:08,410 --> 01:37:03,900
need financial services

1920
01:37:11,570 --> 01:37:08,420
so so they they dug out Royston cave

1921
01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:11,580
uh uh over over years they would have

1922
01:37:15,410 --> 01:37:13,620
you know the carvings you know came into

1923
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:15,420
being

1924
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:18,000
and there was a platform above the

1925
01:37:21,709 --> 01:37:19,260
carvings

1926
01:37:24,770 --> 01:37:21,719
and so so you you know they were able to

1927
01:37:27,229 --> 01:37:24,780
disguise their activities underneath

1928
01:37:28,209 --> 01:37:27,239
where the the carvings were

1929
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:28,219
yeah

1930
01:37:34,850 --> 01:37:31,440
this next image well stay right there

1931
01:37:36,830 --> 01:37:34,860
because this is at the at in the

1932
01:37:40,490 --> 01:37:36,840
entrance of Royston cave

1933
01:37:44,530 --> 01:37:40,500
yeah yeah uh with with the current

1934
01:37:48,410 --> 01:37:44,540
um uh entryway which is dates to the the

1935
01:37:49,970 --> 01:37:48,420
1700s this is is the main shocking thing

1936
01:37:51,350 --> 01:37:49,980
that you see

1937
01:37:53,390 --> 01:37:51,360
um it might not have been the first

1938
01:37:55,010 --> 01:37:53,400
thing during the time of the Templars

1939
01:37:57,470 --> 01:37:55,020
because during the time of the Templars

1940
01:38:01,850 --> 01:37:57,480
you know broyston cave is a large Dome

1941
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:01,860
you would have come down a ladder to the

1942
01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:04,320
first level and then down another ladder

1943
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:07,800
ladder into this level uh but I believe

1944
01:38:14,689 --> 01:38:11,760
that this is a very important uh uh

1945
01:38:18,169 --> 01:38:14,699
shocker it's meant it's meant to confuse

1946
01:38:20,990 --> 01:38:18,179
prying eyes because you know it's also

1947
01:38:24,410 --> 01:38:21,000
her deeply heretical you have the the

1948
01:38:26,510 --> 01:38:24,420
naked woman who is called a Sheila nagig

1949
01:38:29,629 --> 01:38:26,520
which is pre-christian

1950
01:38:32,750 --> 01:38:29,639
uh mother goddess figure and you've got

1951
01:38:34,910 --> 01:38:32,760
a um The Huffington horse which is a

1952
01:38:39,890 --> 01:38:34,920
chalk figure

1953
01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:39,900
um uh on the igneled way down to Bristol

1954
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,260
where they also had a control of the

1955
01:38:48,110 --> 01:38:45,360
port the Templars controlled the port in

1956
01:38:50,689 --> 01:38:48,120
Bristol so why are they integrating the

1957
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,699
Sheila nagig and the Huffington horse

1958
01:38:55,010 --> 01:38:52,320
here

1959
01:38:57,169 --> 01:38:55,020
um notice so that's interesting so

1960
01:38:59,689 --> 01:38:57,179
notice the the sword here is in the the

1961
01:39:02,330 --> 01:38:59,699
prayer position but it's tilted

1962
01:39:04,970 --> 01:39:02,340
and next to it is what's been

1963
01:39:07,550 --> 01:39:04,980
erroneously called a shield it's not a

1964
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,560
shield a shield like that that small

1965
01:39:13,550 --> 01:39:09,840
didn't come into place many hundreds of

1966
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:13,560
years later on uh as technology changed

1967
01:39:18,290 --> 01:39:16,560
during this time you would have had a

1968
01:39:21,709 --> 01:39:18,300
kite Shield which could have been a good

1969
01:39:24,110 --> 01:39:21,719
four to five feet long and meant to

1970
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:24,120
protect your whole body

1971
01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:27,360
um so what that represents is a floor

1972
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:31,820
plan of of the Round Church

1973
01:39:39,050 --> 01:39:36,480
of Cambridge which was built at around

1974
01:39:43,370 --> 01:39:39,060
the same time that this would have been

1975
01:39:46,970 --> 01:39:43,380
dug out and it's on the same road

1976
01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:46,980
that that intersects and it's a sacred

1977
01:39:54,290 --> 01:39:49,739
Road and there are a few Templar

1978
01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:54,300
properties on this uh Road from from

1979
01:40:00,350 --> 01:39:57,900
north to south uh for it's it's actually

1980
01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:00,360
runs Northeast

1981
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:04,500
to Southwest across Britain so so you've

1982
01:40:10,910 --> 01:40:07,679
got this sword at an angle which I

1983
01:40:12,649 --> 01:40:10,920
believe represents this ancient ignealed

1984
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:12,659
Celtic way

1985
01:40:20,209 --> 01:40:15,840
uh and there are Templar properties on

1986
01:40:22,850 --> 01:40:20,219
the acmeul way and Royston cave the

1987
01:40:24,410 --> 01:40:22,860
floor plan is is

1988
01:40:25,729 --> 01:40:24,420
um is actually in the shape of an

1989
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:25,739
octagon

1990
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:29,159
so you come in you you you you you step

1991
01:40:33,410 --> 01:40:30,719
down

1992
01:40:38,030 --> 01:40:33,420
um about six inches eight inches into an

1993
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:38,040
octagon and that octagon is true but uh

1994
01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:39,360
north south

1995
01:40:45,050 --> 01:40:42,420
uh by it's just off by a few degrees

1996
01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:45,060
so these are Master Builders here the

1997
01:40:49,370 --> 01:40:46,800
Templars built in round Towers they

1998
01:40:54,050 --> 01:40:49,380
built in octagons and the Octagon church

1999
01:40:56,750 --> 01:40:54,060
is up the way now uh Edward III took the

2000
01:40:59,810 --> 01:40:56,760
Church of Royston cave

2001
01:41:04,550 --> 01:40:59,820
um uh by force if you will the church

2002
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:04,560
was being held by the hospitalers which

2003
01:41:09,950 --> 01:41:07,679
which uh were given Templar properties

2004
01:41:12,110 --> 01:41:09,960
now the funny thing is the Templars

2005
01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:12,120
never held this church

2006
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,440
so but I do believe that Edward III knew

2007
01:41:21,950 --> 01:41:18,560
something was going on at Royston

2008
01:41:25,790 --> 01:41:21,960
because he took he took two other

2009
01:41:28,729 --> 01:41:25,800
churches on this line on this road

2010
01:41:31,010 --> 01:41:28,739
eight miles uh let me finish my thought

2011
01:41:33,470 --> 01:41:31,020
first on the configuration here of the

2012
01:41:36,590 --> 01:41:33,480
the you know you're you're you're not

2013
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,600
going to drop down a hole in a street as

2014
01:41:40,010 --> 01:41:38,400
a Templar everybody's going to know what

2015
01:41:42,590 --> 01:41:40,020
you're doing

2016
01:41:47,149 --> 01:41:42,600
um Royston was a market town they built

2017
01:41:49,310 --> 01:41:47,159
a permanent structure above the cave

2018
01:41:53,229 --> 01:41:49,320
so that they could secretly go in and

2019
01:41:55,729 --> 01:41:53,239
out when they wanted to and the

2020
01:42:00,649 --> 01:41:55,739
augustinians that held the church and

2021
01:42:03,530 --> 01:42:00,659
this uh this uh Cave is is right on

2022
01:42:06,530 --> 01:42:03,540
their front door to add insult to injury

2023
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:06,540
to the augustinians and

2024
01:42:12,109 --> 01:42:10,320
um uh there is on record uh uh you know

2025
01:42:14,930 --> 01:42:12,119
arguments between the augustinians and

2026
01:42:17,330 --> 01:42:14,940
the Templars uh the Templars complained

2027
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:17,340
to the king they were being taxed by the

2028
01:42:22,729 --> 01:42:20,159
augustinians they should have been able

2029
01:42:24,290 --> 01:42:22,739
to be there tax-free

2030
01:42:26,450 --> 01:42:24,300
um so you know they had a physical

2031
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,460
presence in Royston and they owned

2032
01:42:31,850 --> 01:42:28,800
several properties in Royston and it

2033
01:42:35,090 --> 01:42:31,860
seased off the augustinians so eight

2034
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:35,100
miles south however on the same line is

2035
01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:37,679
the town of Baldock that they were given

2036
01:42:42,830 --> 01:42:39,900
permission to build so you've got a

2037
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:42,840
market trading town that was completely

2038
01:42:49,550 --> 01:42:45,840
built by the Knights Templar Baldock is

2039
01:42:52,370 --> 01:42:49,560
a derivative of the name Baghdad

2040
01:42:56,270 --> 01:42:52,380
well now that is just no end of cool

2041
01:42:58,490 --> 01:42:56,280
there so so uh unfortunately you know

2042
01:43:01,550 --> 01:42:58,500
when the Templars were were disbanded

2043
01:43:04,669 --> 01:43:01,560
the the hospitals got hold of the town

2044
01:43:08,209 --> 01:43:04,679
of Baldock including its church that was

2045
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:08,219
dedicated to Mary Magdalene and Edward

2046
01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:10,380
III took it from them

2047
01:43:17,870 --> 01:43:15,000
and he became the patron of uh the

2048
01:43:20,810 --> 01:43:17,880
church of Saint Mary Magdalene and the

2049
01:43:25,010 --> 01:43:20,820
Church of St Johnson Royston and also

2050
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,020
the church of Saint Michael's in Royston

2051
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:27,600
so you've got three churches on this

2052
01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:29,760
ancient line

2053
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:33,540
um uh that he took and became the patron

2054
01:43:36,649 --> 01:43:34,440
of

2055
01:43:39,649 --> 01:43:36,659
so Edward III was looking for Templar

2056
01:43:44,330 --> 01:43:39,659
Secrets those churches remained in the

2057
01:43:47,090 --> 01:43:44,340
crown up until the early 1800s when they

2058
01:43:48,530 --> 01:43:47,100
uh were were absorbed by the local

2059
01:43:52,430 --> 01:43:48,540
diocese

2060
01:43:56,990 --> 01:43:52,440
there's so much symbolism in in this

2061
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:57,000
and to have you know the four

2062
01:44:01,850 --> 01:44:00,000
four symbols right in a row clearly tied

2063
01:44:04,370 --> 01:44:01,860
together

2064
01:44:06,530 --> 01:44:04,380
um it's it's just extraordinary there's

2065
01:44:09,410 --> 01:44:06,540
more I haven't I haven't sent you

2066
01:44:13,129 --> 01:44:09,420
everything or we would be here for

2067
01:44:16,729 --> 01:44:13,139
probably a couple of days uh but uh

2068
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:16,739
there there is more well then there's

2069
01:44:21,790 --> 01:44:19,920
this this blew my mind let's just go

2070
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:21,800
right here let's go right here

2071
01:44:28,129 --> 01:44:25,440
yes here for a second and

2072
01:44:30,830 --> 01:44:28,139
let's go right here

2073
01:44:34,910 --> 01:44:30,840
um now uh I'll let you say it out loud

2074
01:44:37,790 --> 01:44:34,920
but I'm just going to zoom in uh

2075
01:44:40,609 --> 01:44:37,800
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis

2076
01:44:42,350 --> 01:44:40,619
uh schmoozing with the rosh for colds

2077
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:42,360
and of course she spoke fluid French she

2078
01:44:49,850 --> 01:44:45,119
was highly educated she was very refined

2079
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:49,860
very uh Noble uh woman uh hanging out

2080
01:44:55,970 --> 01:44:52,560
with the roshvacals in France and um

2081
01:44:59,870 --> 01:44:55,980
this Photograph was uh it is in the

2082
01:45:04,669 --> 01:44:59,880
castle itself uh the family has been

2083
01:45:06,890 --> 01:45:04,679
rubbing shoulders with America for a few

2084
01:45:08,930 --> 01:45:06,900
centuries they were best you know

2085
01:45:11,689 --> 01:45:08,940
friends one of the Dukes was best

2086
01:45:13,250 --> 01:45:11,699
friends if you will with Benjamin

2087
01:45:18,169 --> 01:45:13,260
Franklin

2088
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:18,179
and there is a a very expensive plaque

2089
01:45:23,870 --> 01:45:21,840
uh also in their their uh drawing room

2090
01:45:29,689 --> 01:45:23,880
uh

2091
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:29,699
and their association with him

2092
01:45:37,129 --> 01:45:34,320
the uh the uh

2093
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:37,139
the young Jackie here this is before

2094
01:45:43,850 --> 01:45:41,280
she's obviously married uh to uh future

2095
01:45:48,109 --> 01:45:43,860
President John Kennedy

2096
01:45:50,689 --> 01:45:48,119
um and the fact that she's here with

2097
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:50,699
this family and then later marries John

2098
01:45:57,770 --> 01:45:54,000
Kennedy uh which had you know the

2099
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:57,780
Kennedy family nicknamed Camelot is also

2100
01:46:02,169 --> 01:46:00,719
pretty bizarre to me this is an amazing

2101
01:46:04,850 --> 01:46:02,179
photograph

2102
01:46:06,890 --> 01:46:04,860
uh wow um

2103
01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:06,900
um thank you for phrasing it in those

2104
01:46:11,750 --> 01:46:08,880
terms

2105
01:46:16,189 --> 01:46:11,760
yes that's exactly what's happening it

2106
01:46:18,590 --> 01:46:16,199
is it is uh this is an important family

2107
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,600
they have always been close to the

2108
01:46:22,010 --> 01:46:20,159
throne

2109
01:46:24,649 --> 01:46:22,020
um to be honest they probably they they

2110
01:46:26,270 --> 01:46:24,659
could have taken the throne uh if they

2111
01:46:29,450 --> 01:46:26,280
had wanted to

2112
01:46:33,890 --> 01:46:29,460
uh they are that high up the ladder

2113
01:46:40,010 --> 01:46:33,900
um one of the the French kings in the

2114
01:46:42,649 --> 01:46:40,020
late 1600s early 1700s uh was is such a

2115
01:46:44,689 --> 01:46:42,659
friend to the Duke uh De La Roche for

2116
01:46:49,129 --> 01:46:44,699
called that he asked him to to move to

2117
01:46:51,649 --> 01:46:49,139
Paris so the Duke built a palace uh near

2118
01:46:52,850 --> 01:46:51,659
Paris you know they're they're insanely

2119
01:46:54,649 --> 01:46:52,860
wealthy

2120
01:46:57,890 --> 01:46:54,659
um or you know had been but they're

2121
01:47:03,050 --> 01:46:57,900
still movers and shakers the uh area

2122
01:47:06,350 --> 01:47:03,060
where where this Chateau sits has uh

2123
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:06,360
recently adopted the family name as its

2124
01:47:13,570 --> 01:47:10,560
County name within the last few years

2125
01:47:17,870 --> 01:47:13,580
so you know this is a

2126
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:17,880
they've been under the radar uh

2127
01:47:25,609 --> 01:47:22,560
until Xena's map came out

2128
01:47:27,709 --> 01:47:25,619
nobody in the in in the English-speaking

2129
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:27,719
world really knew who the Roche recalls

2130
01:47:33,950 --> 01:47:30,239
were unless

2131
01:47:38,570 --> 01:47:33,960
they were well versed in in French

2132
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:38,580
history and early American history

2133
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:42,239
just an incredible photography man she

2134
01:47:49,609 --> 01:47:45,119
was stunning she is a beautiful graceful

2135
01:47:55,010 --> 01:47:49,619
man man a consort Fit For A King truly

2136
01:47:56,810 --> 01:47:55,020
okay uh you know this okay let's just go

2137
01:47:59,209 --> 01:47:56,820
there I'm going there right now

2138
01:48:02,510 --> 01:47:59,219
uh

2139
01:48:05,689 --> 01:48:02,520
I had this thought the other day

2140
01:48:07,850 --> 01:48:05,699
uh about Starbucks and and the thought

2141
01:48:12,649 --> 01:48:07,860
was this Starbucks

2142
01:48:13,609 --> 01:48:12,659
is like to my recent you know not a

2143
01:48:18,410 --> 01:48:13,619
memory

2144
01:48:21,649 --> 01:48:18,420
is a company that is now as globally

2145
01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:21,659
recognized as a logo as anything else

2146
01:48:27,770 --> 01:48:25,619
Coca-Cola McDonald's right I do just you

2147
01:48:31,790 --> 01:48:27,780
know pick something Starbucks and

2148
01:48:34,010 --> 01:48:31,800
they've done it all without advertising

2149
01:48:36,770 --> 01:48:34,020
that's that's

2150
01:48:39,050 --> 01:48:36,780
how this it okay so what are we looking

2151
01:48:40,330 --> 01:48:39,060
at here the first thing I think of is

2152
01:48:43,490 --> 01:48:40,340
Starbucks

2153
01:48:45,850 --> 01:48:43,500
well well you're not too far off it is

2154
01:48:50,450 --> 01:48:45,860
another incarnation of Mary Magdalene

2155
01:48:52,189 --> 01:48:50,460
this uh is the emblem for the city of

2156
01:48:54,050 --> 01:48:52,199
magdeburg

2157
01:48:57,770 --> 01:48:54,060
in Germany

2158
01:49:02,270 --> 01:48:57,780
and magdeburg is only 10 miles away from

2159
01:49:04,850 --> 01:49:02,280
where uh the uh encyclopedia

2160
01:49:09,229 --> 01:49:04,860
at the mayor of Indian Abbey hortic

2161
01:49:11,209 --> 01:49:09,239
stellicarium was was written uh you have

2162
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:11,219
the you have Mary Magdalene or the

2163
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:17,040
maiden holding the poem of Victory and

2164
01:49:23,689 --> 01:49:20,719
the sort of Truth and she's standing

2165
01:49:26,030 --> 01:49:23,699
integrated with a tower

2166
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:26,040
um Magda uh

2167
01:49:32,090 --> 01:49:29,280
Mary Mary Magdalene or Mary the tower

2168
01:49:35,390 --> 01:49:32,100
and this is uh the city of magdeburg

2169
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:35,400
again a close tie to

2170
01:49:41,050 --> 01:49:40,320
to Mary Magdalene yeah it's so crazy to

2171
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:41,060
me

2172
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:46,320
in in that I don't think after this show

2173
01:49:51,530 --> 01:49:48,719
um and and somebody sees this and and

2174
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:51,540
understands Mary Mary Magdalene the the

2175
01:49:57,590 --> 01:49:54,780
city all of that the tower the symbology

2176
01:50:00,410 --> 01:49:57,600
but then you're never going to get

2177
01:50:02,750 --> 01:50:00,420
Starbucks out of your mind again no and

2178
01:50:06,530 --> 01:50:02,760
it's not I I just don't feel that it's a

2179
01:50:08,270 --> 01:50:06,540
coincidence I I know Starbucks uh

2180
01:50:11,450 --> 01:50:08,280
started in Seattle I'm from the the

2181
01:50:13,490 --> 01:50:11,460
greater Seattle area and I have always

2182
01:50:16,669 --> 01:50:13,500
loved that logo there are some people

2183
01:50:20,510 --> 01:50:16,679
who who say it's evil well I don't think

2184
01:50:22,910 --> 01:50:20,520
so this is a very important uh

2185
01:50:25,729 --> 01:50:22,920
individual

2186
01:50:27,709 --> 01:50:25,739
um women's rights are being eroded

2187
01:50:31,070 --> 01:50:27,719
around the world we're we're actually

2188
01:50:32,510 --> 01:50:31,080
sliding into a dark time uh Africa I

2189
01:50:36,530 --> 01:50:32,520
feel so badly for the women in

2190
01:50:39,770 --> 01:50:36,540
Afghanistan uh in you know it's just

2191
01:50:44,990 --> 01:50:39,780
Dreadful uh what's happening in Israel

2192
01:50:47,390 --> 01:50:45,000
women are no longer allowed to uh read

2193
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:47,400
the Holy books

2194
01:50:55,250 --> 01:50:50,639
um they're no longer allowed to to S to

2195
01:50:56,410 --> 01:50:55,260
preach uh things have gotten very tight

2196
01:51:00,590 --> 01:50:56,420
um

2197
01:51:04,669 --> 01:51:00,600
she I I have some very close friends who

2198
01:51:09,229 --> 01:51:04,679
women who go to church every Sunday and

2199
01:51:12,109 --> 01:51:09,239
have embraced her as their mother figure

2200
01:51:14,930 --> 01:51:12,119
as the new EVE they have no problems

2201
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:14,940
with this whatsoever in balancing her

2202
01:51:21,709 --> 01:51:17,760
out with their relationship with with

2203
01:51:24,010 --> 01:51:21,719
with Yeshua Jesus and Christianity

2204
01:51:28,010 --> 01:51:24,020
so there really isn't an argument here

2205
01:51:34,970 --> 01:51:31,209
just broader discussions

2206
01:51:40,609 --> 01:51:34,980
it was just a fascinating fascinating

2207
01:51:44,050 --> 01:51:40,619
image there and uh okay here we go now

2208
01:51:46,910 --> 01:51:44,060
I'm we're gonna do this one more time uh

2209
01:51:50,030 --> 01:51:46,920
what are we looking at yeah I took a

2210
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:50,040
photograph and I I uh put this into

2211
01:51:53,390 --> 01:51:51,840
black and black and white so you could

2212
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,400
see it better

2213
01:51:58,370 --> 01:51:55,280
um if you go to

2214
01:52:01,790 --> 01:51:58,380
roystoncave.co.uk you can see all the

2215
01:52:04,250 --> 01:52:01,800
carvings in the cave

2216
01:52:06,770 --> 01:52:04,260
um I wasn't given permission to use the

2217
01:52:08,270 --> 01:52:06,780
carvings in my book which was was rather

2218
01:52:10,129 --> 01:52:08,280
crushing

2219
01:52:15,370 --> 01:52:10,139
um to me but but you know they're

2220
01:52:18,729 --> 01:52:15,380
protecting their uh I I cannot fault

2221
01:52:21,890 --> 01:52:18,739
the leadership of Royston k for for

2222
01:52:25,070 --> 01:52:21,900
protecting as they see fit their their

2223
01:52:27,770 --> 01:52:25,080
asset if you will a lot of monuments

2224
01:52:30,830 --> 01:52:27,780
want to stay neutral so here I come

2225
01:52:32,750 --> 01:52:30,840
along and I I make their life difficult

2226
01:52:34,430 --> 01:52:32,760
um uh but

2227
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:34,440
um uh you you'll see a complete

2228
01:52:39,770 --> 01:52:37,199
description of the of the pertinent

2229
01:52:42,410 --> 01:52:39,780
carvings in in my book but even in the

2230
01:52:45,709 --> 01:52:42,420
book I direct you to the virtual reality

2231
01:52:48,290 --> 01:52:45,719
that is available online this has always

2232
01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:48,300
been described as Eleanor of Aquitaine

2233
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:51,060
who is imprisoned

2234
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:53,100
um uh now Eleanor of aquitain went on

2235
01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:56,159
Crusade and was was asked by Bernard de

2236
01:53:00,830 --> 01:52:57,960
clareville Mastermind of the Templar

2237
01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:00,840
knights to go and support the Templars

2238
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:02,760
and she did she gave them a lot of land

2239
01:53:08,450 --> 01:53:06,239
in southern France a lot of land and her

2240
01:53:11,149 --> 01:53:08,460
son followed suit

2241
01:53:13,430 --> 01:53:11,159
um uh so here you have a a woman with a

2242
01:53:16,729 --> 01:53:13,440
crown you can see her head her shoulders

2243
01:53:20,570 --> 01:53:16,739
her body tightens down at the ankles

2244
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:20,580
um and and a a tail a fin uh uh splashes

2245
01:53:26,330 --> 01:53:23,280
out flows out from the Alcove she's

2246
01:53:29,810 --> 01:53:26,340
sitting in so this is not just melazine

2247
01:53:30,729 --> 01:53:29,820
it's also Eleanor valquitaine who's

2248
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:30,739
um

2249
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:35,040
uh grandmother is a Roche called and

2250
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:38,880
again melazine is the family shield for

2251
01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:42,420
the roshvakal family so again you know

2252
01:53:47,629 --> 01:53:45,119
the roshvakals are close to the crowns

2253
01:53:49,850 --> 01:53:47,639
of you you know important crowns of

2254
01:53:51,890 --> 01:53:49,860
Europe as well as being related to them

2255
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,900
they're their descendants

2256
01:53:54,530 --> 01:53:53,520
uh so

2257
01:53:59,390 --> 01:53:54,540
um

2258
01:54:01,729 --> 01:53:59,400
Eleanor uh is a an amazing woman she

2259
01:54:06,109 --> 01:54:01,739
along with Bernard de clarvo Believe It

2260
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:06,119
or Not lifted women to a higher level

2261
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:07,440
you know

2262
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:10,320
um uh Bernard de clarovo started the

2263
01:54:15,530 --> 01:54:13,440
mariology movement which was a

2264
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:15,540
veneration of mother Mary and Mary

2265
01:54:23,689 --> 01:54:19,920
Magdalene and and lifted women up uh at

2266
01:54:26,450 --> 01:54:23,699
this time chivalry began to be more

2267
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:26,460
respectful towards women and Eleanor of

2268
01:54:31,250 --> 01:54:28,080
aquatine was the queen of the

2269
01:54:36,649 --> 01:54:31,260
Troubadours that of course was involved

2270
01:54:39,890 --> 01:54:36,659
with the cathars of uh as well so

2271
01:54:41,530 --> 01:54:39,900
um uh she is

2272
01:54:46,189 --> 01:54:41,540
um

2273
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:46,199
uh next to this carving is is next to

2274
01:54:51,169 --> 01:54:48,960
another image of of what looks basically

2275
01:54:55,070 --> 01:54:51,179
like an exact you know what better

2276
01:54:58,850 --> 01:54:55,080
formed out you know a stick figure on uh

2277
01:55:01,790 --> 01:54:58,860
on on her on one side of her and this

2278
01:55:05,149 --> 01:55:01,800
this figure this man is holding a skull

2279
01:55:07,850 --> 01:55:05,159
in one hand and a candle in the other

2280
01:55:10,970 --> 01:55:07,860
so that kind of gives you some

2281
01:55:13,149 --> 01:55:10,980
information to to what's going to be

2282
01:55:16,430 --> 01:55:13,159
experienced when you go into the cave

2283
01:55:19,609 --> 01:55:16,440
when the cave was discovered

2284
01:55:21,169 --> 01:55:19,619
a skull was found a real skull was found

2285
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:21,179
in the cave

2286
01:55:29,450 --> 01:55:25,280
and of course the skull and crossbones

2287
01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:29,460
is a flag of the Templars the Jolly

2288
01:55:34,430 --> 01:55:32,239
Roger which

2289
01:55:37,250 --> 01:55:34,440
go was it

2290
01:55:39,770 --> 01:55:37,260
well that's a good question they don't

2291
01:55:43,490 --> 01:55:39,780
know it's speculated that it might have

2292
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:43,500
been lady rosia's Royston is a

2293
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:47,280
derivative of her name and her her uh

2294
01:55:53,649 --> 01:55:51,119
mother was also named roysia r-o-i

2295
01:55:58,850 --> 01:55:53,659
meaning Roy meaning King

2296
01:56:03,649 --> 01:55:58,860
Zia uh s i a feminine version uh of

2297
01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:03,659
kingship so she lady Rosia uh mother

2298
01:56:10,729 --> 01:56:08,159
daughter uh uh basically you know their

2299
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:10,739
name was you know or queen you know uh

2300
01:56:16,490 --> 01:56:14,159
uh uh she was married to Joffrey de

2301
01:56:18,410 --> 01:56:16,500
Mandeville who wrote with the Templars

2302
01:56:20,270 --> 01:56:18,420
and

2303
01:56:22,729 --> 01:56:20,280
um uh

2304
01:56:24,129 --> 01:56:22,739
that's a whole other story but she is

2305
01:56:27,729 --> 01:56:24,139
depicted

2306
01:56:31,310 --> 01:56:27,739
with her husband in the cave

2307
01:56:33,229 --> 01:56:31,320
uh uh carved into the floor and you'll

2308
01:56:35,330 --> 01:56:33,239
see it's it's a mini it's a miniature

2309
01:56:38,330 --> 01:56:35,340
it's only about this long this carving

2310
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:38,340
in the floor and so you'll see a lot of

2311
01:56:46,850 --> 01:56:43,920
of uh burials in churches full size of

2312
01:56:49,850 --> 01:56:46,860
nobility who paid to be close to the

2313
01:56:52,850 --> 01:56:49,860
high Altar and have brass or other

2314
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:52,860
carvings in the floor letting you know

2315
01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:54,960
where they were buried in the church so

2316
01:56:59,810 --> 01:56:57,119
here it is in miniature and I've never

2317
01:57:01,790 --> 01:56:59,820
seen anything like that anywhere else so

2318
01:57:05,570 --> 01:57:01,800
this is a shrine to Joffrey to

2319
01:57:09,590 --> 01:57:05,580
Mandeville uh supporter of the Templars

2320
01:57:12,050 --> 01:57:09,600
and also to you know his his his wife so

2321
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:12,060
this is an interesting Endeavor of man

2322
01:57:19,370 --> 01:57:15,599
and wife and the Knights Templar

2323
01:57:20,930 --> 01:57:19,380
wild and and uh uh the court you know

2324
01:57:23,570 --> 01:57:20,940
and of course the Templars conducted

2325
01:57:25,850 --> 01:57:23,580
their Financial Training from there and

2326
01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:25,860
whatever else uh they were trading at

2327
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:28,260
this location in Royston

2328
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:29,520
um

2329
01:57:35,089 --> 01:57:32,400
well let's get the rest of uh the before

2330
01:57:37,010 --> 01:57:35,099
we run out of time uh what what are we

2331
01:57:39,950 --> 01:57:37,020
looking at here I took this Photograph

2332
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:39,960
uh in Chateau De La Roche called it's

2333
01:57:45,589 --> 01:57:42,239
actually White marble but the photo

2334
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:45,599
didn't take very well it is a marble

2335
01:57:52,609 --> 01:57:50,159
platform and it is the family shield for

2336
01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:52,619
the the Rochelle called family and

2337
01:57:57,729 --> 01:57:56,400
you've got the two uh uh wild men on

2338
01:58:02,510 --> 01:57:57,739
either side

2339
01:58:04,089 --> 01:58:02,520
that that repre probably represent

2340
01:58:07,490 --> 01:58:04,099
um uh

2341
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:07,500
conquered uh Kings you'll you'll see

2342
01:58:12,109 --> 01:58:10,080
that a lot in different families uh uh

2343
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,119
they all have their conquered foe

2344
01:58:19,609 --> 01:58:15,360
looking very wild it might also be a a

2345
01:58:22,370 --> 01:58:19,619
holdover of the Green Man uh

2346
01:58:24,589 --> 01:58:22,380
uh thought structure from from the

2347
01:58:28,430 --> 01:58:24,599
Middle Middle Ages so Sheila Nikia was

2348
01:58:31,970 --> 01:58:28,440
often put into churches uh wild green

2349
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:31,980
men and above in in the the Dougal Crown

2350
01:58:38,990 --> 01:58:35,760
is melozine with two tails holding up

2351
01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:39,000
the plinth and on top of that was a bust

2352
01:58:42,950 --> 01:58:41,880
of a uh one of the Dukes de rochva

2353
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:42,960
called

2354
01:58:48,729 --> 01:58:47,119
so uh absolutely mind-blowingly

2355
01:58:51,890 --> 01:58:48,739
fascinating

2356
01:58:53,450 --> 01:58:51,900
all right uh let's get all of this in

2357
01:58:55,330 --> 01:58:53,460
here we go here we go there's another

2358
01:59:00,410 --> 01:58:55,340
tail

2359
01:59:05,330 --> 01:59:00,420
that uh image I took uh is the exterior

2360
01:59:09,709 --> 01:59:05,340
of the castle and she uh

2361
01:59:13,209 --> 01:59:09,719
she um is repeated a few times around

2362
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:13,219
the upper upper castellations

2363
01:59:21,410 --> 01:59:17,040
along with the shell uh the the Venus

2364
01:59:24,430 --> 01:59:21,420
shell or the Compostela rosh recalled uh

2365
01:59:27,950 --> 01:59:24,440
is on the trail of the pilgrimage of

2366
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:27,960
Compostela to Spain to the cathedral

2367
01:59:33,050 --> 01:59:30,239
there where you if you walk the

2368
01:59:36,290 --> 01:59:33,060
pilgrimage Trail then you get your shell

2369
01:59:38,689 --> 01:59:36,300
when you arrive there but it's also a

2370
01:59:41,390 --> 01:59:38,699
symbol of of Venus

2371
01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:41,400
uh we're running into overtime I I just

2372
01:59:45,229 --> 01:59:43,860
have uh uh two minutes left here before

2373
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:45,239
we get cut off

2374
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:47,520
Royston cave this is the man holding the

2375
01:59:53,089 --> 01:59:50,400
candle the skull he just faded badly

2376
01:59:55,430 --> 01:59:53,099
over time but um I'm basing that

2377
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:55,440
information off of what Royston cave

2378
02:00:00,890 --> 01:59:58,080
authorities say themselves that he

2379
02:00:03,109 --> 02:00:00,900
looked like you know in times gone past

2380
02:00:06,770 --> 02:00:03,119
this is a delicate structure and it is

2381
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:10,149
let's let's do this really quick

2382
02:00:14,810 --> 02:00:13,800
that picture is in the

2383
02:00:18,050 --> 02:00:14,820
at

2384
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,060
uh the church of Saint Mary Magdalene uh

2385
02:00:23,510 --> 02:00:20,639
at Baldock uh built by the Knights

2386
02:00:27,410 --> 02:00:23,520
Templar and there is the mermaid their

2387
02:00:30,109 --> 02:00:27,420
ancestors and a very large nasty Beastie

2388
02:00:33,050 --> 02:00:30,119
who wants to eat her yeah that's such a

2389
02:00:33,890 --> 02:00:33,060
it's just a crazy shot yeah

2390
02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:33,900
um

2391
02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:35,280
yeah

2392
02:00:44,990 --> 02:00:40,800
that's a second one

2393
02:00:49,070 --> 02:00:45,000
um that is thought to be Saint George uh

2394
02:00:50,750 --> 02:00:49,080
he could also be on uh

2395
02:00:51,950 --> 02:00:50,760
a

2396
02:00:53,330 --> 02:00:51,960
could be

2397
02:00:55,790 --> 02:00:53,340
um

2398
02:00:58,010 --> 02:00:55,800
this is where it gets gets touchy I

2399
02:01:01,310 --> 02:00:58,020
don't have time to explain his armor and

2400
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:01,320
what he's wearing uh in this case St

2401
02:01:07,310 --> 02:01:04,080
George is a is is a good as good a

2402
02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:07,320
conversation he's got a cross on his

2403
02:01:14,030 --> 02:01:10,380
chest yeah you'll it's it's

2404
02:01:16,850 --> 02:01:14,040
you'll see uh Hearts everywhere

2405
02:01:18,890 --> 02:01:16,860
in this cave and the crosses are

2406
02:01:23,209 --> 02:01:18,900
absolutely dizzying you know you'd go

2407
02:01:25,609 --> 02:01:23,219
crazy trying to count them right right

2408
02:01:29,629 --> 02:01:25,619
that is the church inside the castle

2409
02:01:32,330 --> 02:01:29,639
complex of roshua called that is one of

2410
02:01:35,270 --> 02:01:32,340
the main windows that is Mary Magdalene

2411
02:01:38,169 --> 02:01:35,280
holding the Grail and if you notice you

2412
02:01:42,470 --> 02:01:38,179
know there's quite a lot of fabric in in

2413
02:01:46,010 --> 02:01:42,480
covering her her abdomen or tummy uh in

2414
02:01:48,470 --> 02:01:46,020
an exaggerated fashion uh she's got she

2415
02:01:51,290 --> 02:01:48,480
has the shell of Compostela or Venus

2416
02:01:57,290 --> 02:01:54,189
there's the castle there's the castle

2417
02:02:02,050 --> 02:01:57,300
900 year old castle that's been built in

2418
02:02:05,390 --> 02:02:02,060
various stages over the over 900 years

2419
02:02:08,030 --> 02:02:05,400
absolutely incredible this last image uh

2420
02:02:10,850 --> 02:02:08,040
I got a bad image uh everybody it's not

2421
02:02:13,129 --> 02:02:10,860
I apologize it's my fault that's there's

2422
02:02:16,370 --> 02:02:13,139
melazine looking at herself in the in

2423
02:02:19,430 --> 02:02:16,380
the mirror of Plato if you will know

2424
02:02:21,770 --> 02:02:19,440
thyself uh as Cassiopeia looking at

2425
02:02:24,010 --> 02:02:21,780
herself in the mirror not aren't I

2426
02:02:27,169 --> 02:02:24,020
gorgeous you know I'm sure she is

2427
02:02:31,669 --> 02:02:27,179
but it's know thyself

2428
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:31,679
um and also very starbucksy uh I I might

2429
02:02:38,149 --> 02:02:35,040
add yeah and this uh is

2430
02:02:40,970 --> 02:02:38,159
um the order of the Garter symbol

2431
02:02:44,570 --> 02:02:40,980
of Saint George the symbol for England

2432
02:02:48,050 --> 02:02:44,580
the kingdom of England and uh this is

2433
02:02:51,770 --> 02:02:48,060
well placed for

2434
02:02:55,070 --> 02:02:51,780
uh the uh church at Royston which

2435
02:02:58,550 --> 02:02:55,080
suffered a terrible fire set by

2436
02:03:00,709 --> 02:02:58,560
teenagers this might actually be one of

2437
02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:00,719
the few actual photographs of that

2438
02:03:06,050 --> 02:03:03,840
window remaining

2439
02:03:08,570 --> 02:03:06,060
there's the uh order of the Garter

2440
02:03:11,390 --> 02:03:08,580
window again

2441
02:03:14,330 --> 02:03:11,400
at Royston

2442
02:03:16,250 --> 02:03:14,340
and man we are out of time I've got one

2443
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last image here

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and I apologize everybody

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um uh but we can make out what what are

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we looking at I I wasn't allowed to to

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use a photograph of this

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um but this is a 18th century drawing of

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Lady Rosia and Joffrey demand to fill in

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the floor it might be about I don't know

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a good foot long maybe a few feet long

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uh uh in miniature basically you know

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this is I think where she's asking the

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Templars to pray for them both this

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happened often you would pay a religious

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order to pray for you as long as the

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money held out that you endowed them

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with and uh that where they that so this

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is a memorial memorial to those two

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individuals okay one last shot there we

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go

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and that of course uh is is Mary

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Magdalene

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in her uh Visage as as Lady Liberty and

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she is a liberating figure if you

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understand her secrets and she is

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holding up a torch but in reality it is

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the Spear of Destiny

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thank you so what what an amazing show

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now where can everybody uh get your

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books I know that I've got a few links

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up for you

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thank you I am on Amazon

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uh you can uh buy signed copies

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02:04:55,790 --> 02:04:53,159
personalized copies from myself at

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Gretchen cornwall.com

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and

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forgive me yeah Gretchen cornwall.com

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Amazon

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um and also if I could direct you to the

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other link Templars uh

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TV yeah I am a contributor to the uh

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series episodes three four and five five

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is being filmed at the end of of May uh

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a contributor to to the series uh we'll

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be filming in southern France so and

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that's on episodes one two three four

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are on Amazon Prime

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um uh so uh yeah Gretchen thank you so

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much and all of Gretchen's links are

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02:05:48,470 --> 02:05:46,739
below over on our website of course and

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I've posted them up throughout social

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media thank you for staying up so late

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with us and enjoy the rest of your day

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over there in the United Kingdom thank

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02:06:00,229 --> 02:05:59,280
you so much Gretchen perfect have a good

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night

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all right you know what that is

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02:06:12,050 --> 02:06:09,380
thank you so much Gretchen thank you

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what a perfect show tonight I had so

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much fun and we don't dive into this as

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much as we should and it is just one of

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those uh subjects that I've been

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covering for many many years here on

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Fade to Black Fade to Black is produced

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church I'll see everybody tomorrow night

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until then be safe

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go back Lee tappy

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